Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Arcana Heart characters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Arcana Heart characters[edit]

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WP:LISTN, as part of the guideline on WP:Notability, explains that we need to establish the notability of lists by establishing the notability of the group. There is nothing here to WP:verify notability of these characters. Further, most of this article just summarizes information from the instruction manual (a few sentences of character bio plus a ton of information about fighting style / moves / etc.), which would violate WP:GAMEGUIDE and WP:VG/GL. Lists of gameplay weapons and moves are considered inappropriate under those guidelines. Simply editing out that information WP:WONTWORK, because then you won't have much of a list at all, hence why I'm proposing deletion as the policy-based option.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shooterwalker (talk • contribs) 23:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LISTN is not applicable to all lists, as it itself explains, but is merely one analytical tool. It helps us far less with subtopics such as this, which is merely a WP:SPLIT from Arcana Heart. If it is not to be kept separately for WP:SIZE concerns, then it should be merged back to that article, as a summary of the characters in a video game series is a necessary part of covering that series. So keep or merge (in other words, deal with through normal editing and discussion to trim or improve sourcing). postdlf (talk) 00:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 21:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 21:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk). — Frankie (talk) 21:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

keep Whether we merge this depends on the importance of the work, and the amount of material available. DGG ( talk ) 17:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 06:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Normally, I would just advocate trimming and merging the list to the main Arcana Heart article. But it seems that a good deal of the information on this list (the entirety of the Arcana Hearts 1 characters for sure) is just directly copied and pasted from the character's official bios off the official site. This seems like its a bit of a copyvio problem that needs to be fixed before anything is merged. Rorshacma (talk) 16:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep whatever survives the above copyright concerns, and then have a normal editing discussion about whether the list should be split from the game or merged back into it. Shooterwalker's nom ignores the fact that we routinely keep one or more lists of characters from fictional works (multiple if merited based on size) in lieu of people deciding to create individual articles for non-notable characters. Jclemens (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.