Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lindsay Fleay
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The result was redirect to The Magic Portal. postdlf (talk) 17:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Lindsay Fleay[edit]
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Does not appear to meet WP:FILMMAKER. I could find no reliable sources that establish notability. Ahecht (talk) 01:35, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Looks like a good Redirect to The Magic Portal for me. I'm sure there's coverage of the filmmaker, but this is not appearent. EditorE (talk) 22:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:14, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The Magic Portal also has notability issues. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:41, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The Magic Portal also has notability issues. --Ahecht (TALK
Sorry, I'm new here, but I believe that Lindsay Fleay is very notable in filmaking. Despite the recent emergence of a film featuring Lego characters from 1973, it is acknowledged that he invented the modern art of Brickfilms. The Magic Portal is a very influential work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jde4qHbCtSg Lindsay also created the characters from the famous "digital rain" graphic from the Matrix film. This is arguably one of the most recognisable movie images of the CG era of filmmaking. He is credited here: Work,_51 and here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/fullcredits for his work on The Matrix. At the time of my writing this, The Magic Portal has over 666,000 views on YouTube! --Eltweedo (talk) 10:00, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your constributions Eltweedo. Please understand that notable is not the same as "famous" or "important" and relies on significant coverage in reliable sources. There are varying standards of notability for various categories of articles, and this article would fall under WP:WEB and WP:FILMMAKER.
- I'm not sure that brickfilms meet the standard of a "significant new concept, theory, or technique" laid out in WP:FILMMAKER. While there are community sites based around brickfilms, the idea of making stop-motion films using common objects was not significantly new at the time, and dates back decades. Please also review WP:WEB and WP:BIGNUMBER. Specifically, the following:
Similarly, a website may be notable, but the owners or authors do not "inherit" notability due to the web content they wrote.
A commonly seen argument at AfD is "Subject has X number of Y, that's notable/non-notable". Notability isn't determined by something's quantity of members, but rather by the quality of the subject's verifiable, reliable sources that I could find. An article on a topic is more likely to pass the notability test with a single article in Encyclopedia Britannica than because it has 1 million views on YouTube.
- The Matrix information is not covered in the article or any reliable sources that I could find. IMDB is not considered a reliable source per WP:USERGENERATED, and none of the sites you listed say that he "created the characters". While Animal Logic did produce the digital rain graphic, Lindsay Fleay is one of a couple dozen people listed on the Animal Logic site as having worked on the film, and the only source on the Matrix digital rain article is Lindsay's own resume which doesn't actually state that he personally "created the characters", only that he "built the motif", which could mean just that he was on the team that made the effect.--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The Matrix information is not covered in the article or any reliable sources that I could find. IMDB is not considered a reliable source per WP:USERGENERATED, and none of the sites you listed say that he "created the characters". While Animal Logic did produce the digital rain graphic, Lindsay Fleay is one of a couple dozen people listed on the Animal Logic site as having worked on the film, and the only source on the Matrix digital rain article is Lindsay's own resume which doesn't actually state that he personally "created the characters", only that he "built the motif", which could mean just that he was on the team that made the effect.--Ahecht (TALK
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 05:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to The Magic Portal per EditorE. 069952497a (U-T-C-E) 12:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to The Magic Portal per EditorE. Notability aside, currently there is not enough stuff to justify an article. Cavarrone 06:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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