Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liis Viira

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The result was keep. Bishonen | talk 19:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Liis Viira[edit]

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I do not know the notability guidelines of the German and Estonian Wikipedias, but at first glance the German and Estonian versions of this article aren't much better. No evidence of significant coverage. SST flyer 17:19, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. SST flyer 17:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions. SST flyer 17:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So, basically, if you know nothing about a certain subject, it should be deleted? Nothing says trigger-happy better than placing a deletion note mere 22 minutes after a stub is created, without any thought about improving the article or even giving it time to be improved. And then some people wonder why newcomers won't stay in Wikipedia. Well, I've added some content, and there's about two dozens of sources I could add, but I'm not sure if it is of any help. If the main criteria is "Never heard of it, hence delete", then by definition, nothing coming from small countries could ever be notable. Concerning a composer, one might start talking about prizes, articles and interviews in national media, presenting country in international competitions, etc, but most likely you've never heard about those prizes, media outlets or competitions either, so the situation would become tautological. Ignorance is its own proof. (And heavens forbid you'd ever try Google.) --Idaeurooplane (talk) 19:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Liis Viira's work was elected to represent Estonian music on International Rostrum of Composers. This event can be called the World Cup of new classical music. It is quite strange anyway how cultural themes are treated in Wikipedia - every soccer player seems to be more important than a professional musician and composer. Pseudacorus (talk) 20:15, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unless better Estonian coverage can be found, simply none of this suggests a better notable article. SwisterTwister talk 03:46, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are several press articles, concert reviews, etc., which testify to the notability of this musician. As so often happens, articles in languages such as Estonian are overlooked.--Ipigott (talk) 09:50, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She is one of the few harpists in Estonia, this puts her into notability for her area under WP:MUSIC, criteria for musicians and ensembles #7. Also, since she's on the national public radio equivalent for Estonia, I think that's a RS that shows her GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Appear to be plenty of references in Estonian. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep – Meets WP:BASIC, albeit on a weak level, upon a review of available sources. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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