Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liberty Lake (New Jersey)

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The result was delete. qedk (t 桜 c) 06:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Liberty Lake (New Jersey)

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This article should be deleted per WP:NGEO, as it has not been written independently of the bodies that have a vested interest in it. There is a lack of third-party sources. BonkHindrance (talk) 05:31, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a small pond, not a lake. No evidence of notability for it or the small organizations around it. There is no automatic notability for the millions of bodies of water in the world. Reywas92^Talk 18:46, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per GEOLAND. There is a well regarded camp on the lake and is the site of the New Jersey Renaissance Fair, receiving some coverage. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 18:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article is supposed to be about the lake, not the camp. StonyBrook (talk) 14:54, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The location is not legally recognized (no post office, no government town/village council etc.) I could not find a GNIS entry for this location. The coverage is trivial. It is not particularly clear if there is much of a population there, the Warehouse Proposal Presents Threat (2012) article states that the camp has an owner, but it would be helpful to fine a WP:RS that says that someone lives there. Cxbrx (talk) 23:43, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As there are no paragraphs, references, or any notability. Analog Horror, (Communicate) 01:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This lake, which comes across as more of a glorified retention basin or reservoir, is completely overshadowed in the primary references by the eponymous summer camp built around it. Similar nearby ponds are charted but this one isn't? The almost complete lack of sources is a problem. StonyBrook (talk) 14:54, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:GEOLAND states: "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc." I can provide information on the lake beyond the basics. We can describe the day camp and Renaissance fair, for example. Just because the article is largely unsourced, doesn't mean that sources are not available. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 03:58, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please point to at least one secondary source demonstrating that this is a named natural lake and not just a retention pond / reservoir associated with a day camp. StonyBrook (talk) 08:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm not convinced this is a named natural feature, or that it actually has a name at all. It is not present on original 1957 1:24,000 topo maps, which show only a water course. It is added in later editions marked as an addition, but no name is assigned. So we appear to have a campsite named Liberty Lake which contains a small man-made pond which the owners of the campsite may refer to as "Liberty Lake", but there is no indication the name is official. ----Pontificalibus 14:10, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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