Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Li (surname 理) (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Nonnotable surname (no notable individual with this surname); material can be merged into List of surnames romanized Li. We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 02:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's anything here worth merging, since Folk etymologies of Chinese surnames and Surnames in Chinese mythology are both redlinks. I don't have access to any complete biographical dictionaries of Chinese historical figures anymore, but it's telling that the Kangxi entry for 理 as a surname lists only the single individual 理徵, who seems to have been invented or repurposed to make sense of a bit of the Yellow Emperor myth where somehow he was the ultimate progenitor of a dozen different surnames.The phenomenon of earlyish Chinese families backdating their surnames to mythological and legendary figures to bolster their own reputations — that's an interesting subject and probably deserves better coverage than we currently give it, but just uncritically repeating myths and folk etymologies without contextualising them as such is not what we should be doing here. I'm landing at delete, but also copypaste sourcing to zh:理姓 (unsourced). Folly Mox (talk) 08:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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