Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lex Talionis Fraternitas

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The result was delete. \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lex Talionis Fraternitas

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Fraternity at only a few law schools. Excessive detail about internal affairs, excessive list of officials and alumni, no evidence of notability except the hazing incident DGG ( talk ) 00:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is a fair chance that the Supreme Court case is notable, and I suspect that there would be far more available internet coverage on it had the incident taken place in the US or UK. It appears that the case set a precedent for what kind of baggage a person could have and still be admitted to the law bar. On the other hand, I see very little which makes the fraternity notable beyond that single incident. I think my preference is to rename and refocus the article to be about the hazing case, but I'm not entirely sure about it. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It seems unlikely that the focus of the SC case is the organization itself rather than hazing generally. Agree strongly with DGG's criticisms of the article, although they don't demonstrate lack of notability. It would be useful if some people with access to English or Tagalog historical newspaper or other materials could opine on the existence of significant coverage. ^Bongo_matic 04:27, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. —Bluemask (talk) 02:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This fraternity has only two active chapters (and never had more than six). The most notable thing about it would probably be their unusually violent initiation rites, in which one new member was killed (although all the links in this article about that are broken). In this article, the mayor of Davao City says he still carries the trauma of the beating he received during his initiation into this fraternity. As a second choice, rewrite the article to focus on the fraternity's issues with hazing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:58, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 22:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW (Talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not notable in itself, and any information about its history of violence belongs in a hazing article, if anywhere. Ohiostandard (talk) 11:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless the article can be referenced properly, it fails WP:N. Click23 (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and merge some of the hazing info into hazing or a stub on that specific incident. MacMed^talk _stalk 20:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. One hazing event got local coverage. Abductive (reasoning) 22:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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