Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leon Claxton

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, after extended time for discussion, and reasonable arguments that the subject has sufficient coverage to be kept. bd2412 T 01:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leon Claxton

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Fails WP:ANYBIO and/or WP:GNG. ∯WBG^converse 11:17, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete agree with nom. Nothing else to add. MaskedSinger (talk) 12:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not meet any notability guidelines here - fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NACTOR. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Although would be nice if someone took a run at sources.Catladyz6 (talk) 19:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, with possible draftification: In the article's current state, only his revue provides a reasonable if weak claim against WP:N. Everything else is noteworthy, accomplished, or non-notable, and the discussion between article creator FloridaArmy and myself at Talk:Leon Claxton#Pivot applies. Unfortunately anything by his granddaughter (website, film, book) currently falls under self-published and non-independent, while Audrey Taylor Henry's Sound of Applause[1] and Joe McKennon's A Pictorial History of the American Carnival, Volume 1[2] would be useful but unfortunately appear to be self-published.

However... the show was an early inspiration for Joni Mitchell [3]. Claxton was "the most successful black carny on the [fairground] circuit"[4]. Has sigcov in Seeing is Believing: America's Sideshows[5] and Caribbean Tourism: People, Service and Hospitality[6]. Notable performers who appeared in his shows were at least Fontella Bass (for a couple of weeks)[7] and Lester Bowie [8] (the show became known as Harlem Review for some period[9]). Evidence of popularity of earlier show "Hep Cats"[10][11]. Between Claxton and his shows there's more than enough material and evidence of notability out there for one article but not, at the moment, for more; cover his shows under his article and redirect there (WP:NOPAGE). ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 13:02, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep What about these sources. There is a lot more on Gbooks. I'm sure there would be more on newspapers.com and fold3. I think there is enough to flesh out a basic article, more if the work was done. Satisfies WP:SIGCOV.
Johnson Publishing Company (30 November 1967). Jet. Johnson Publishing Company. pp. 58–. Retrieved 20 July 2019.
Nielsen Business Media, Inc. (27 November 1954). Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. p. 87. Retrieved 20 July 2019. {{cite book}}: |author= has generic name (help)
Nielsen Business Media, Inc. (2 November 1959). Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. pp. 71–. Retrieved 20 July 2019. {{cite book}}: |author= has generic name (help)
Audrey Taylor Henry (November 2009). The Sound of Applause. Dorrance Publishing. pp. 8–. ISBN 978-1-4349-6350-5. Retrieved 20 July 2019.

scope_creep^Talk 10:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think there is enough sources and satisfies WP:GNG but the article needs to be reworked.Taewangkorea (talk) 23:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For further examination of sources recently listed in the discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 22:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep subject is covered very substantially in reliable independent sources as noted above in this discussion and as cited in article. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets the WP:GNG, is covered directly in independent secondary sources.

https://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2464 Contains substantial biographical commentary on Leon Claxton.

https://itvs.org/films/jig-show "unearthed is the life and lore of African American showman Claxton, a little-known civil rights hero whose vision, passion, and determination produced a multi-cultural stage show that still resonates today." This is an impressively rich secondary source, even as only a single sentence.

--SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:07, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of these sources, though significant, are independent since Cunningham is Claxton's granddaughter. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 03:32, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - while I love those revue shows, the performers are almost always too common for notability. I'd change my mind if someone can find better sourcing. Bearian (talk) 18:18, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.