Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laureate (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Laureate (band)[edit]

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Non-notable band. Admittedly, it's hard to search given their common name but even so, I'm unable to find anything that remotely satisfies WP:GNG CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:53, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The band is quite popular in the Montreal area, if you search Laureate Band there are many pages hits associated to them. They most recently played at Beaus fest alongside Sloan, Cancer bats and Fred Penner. Perhaps your searching skills need to be brushed up? All that to say, they tour enough and are represented enough online to merit a wikipedia page. - page creator

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:14, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The only significant reliable source coverage I can find is the Exclaim! album review. Other than that there are a few brief mentions and a couple of articles in university newspapers. None of the other criteria of WP:NMUSIC appear to be satisfied. --Michig (talk) 06:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Local popularity in their own hometown is not the Wikipedia inclusion test for a band — since local "popularity" is a vague criterion that literally any musician or band can simply claim to have, just throwing the word "popular" around doesn't accomplish jack split by itself. Rather, getting a band into Wikipedia requires nationalized achievements, like a hit single on the Canadian Hot 100 or a Juno Award or a national tour that generates media coverage. And almost all of the referencing here is either blogs or primary sources, which do not count as evidence of notability at all — the only reference here that's doing anything in terms of building a claim to passing GNG in lieu of not actually passing any NMUSIC criteria is the Exclaim! review, which isn't enough coverage to finish the job of getting them over GNG if all the rest of the sourcing around it is garbage. So no, nothing here is enough. Note that I've also bundled their one EP which also has an article, as if the band doesn't qualify for one their EP automatically can't have one either. Bearcat (talk) 17:00, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt that bundling in another article into an AfD two days after it started is acceptable, unless we give them both 7 days starting from today, and you haven't put an AfD notice on that article to point interested editors here. If this article gets deleted, that one would be probably be an A9 candidate anyway. --Michig (talk) 18:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's allowed, and even if the page is an A9 candidate it has to get noticed before anybody can delete it — A9-eligible albums frequently still malinger for years after their artists get deleted, because nobody's paying attention to them. So it's more appropriate for the album article, if it gets caught in time, to get stapled to the existing AFD discussion to eliminate the possibility of it getting overlooked in the process. Bearcat (talk) 18:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They have several reviews and plenty of coverage outside of just exclaim. They've been covered in new noise magazine, punknews.org as well as on CBC. They have more than just one EP as the previous member puts it.. They have a feature length album, as well as a second album coming out shortly. David.palmer99(talk) 10:27, 02 October 2018 (EST)

They have not been "covered" by the CBC; they had a self-created EPK profile on the part of CBC Radio 3's website that used to allow bands with music on the site to post their own self-created EPK profiles. That's not reliable sourcing for the notability of a band, because the band got to put it there themselves (as opposed to having a professional journalist give them coverage, which is the kind of sourcing we're actually looking for). Punknews.org is a web forum, not a reliable source for establishing the notability of a band, and New Noise is a WordPress blog, not a reliable source for establishing the notability of a band. None of those sources help at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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