Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Davis (Female Comedian)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 20:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Davis (Female Comedian)[edit]

The CSD tag was removed by someone or other with the summary "do not disrupt", and I can't face squabbling over it.

This mis-titled article is abou a non-notable comedian, it seems to me. ╟─Treasury Tag►contribs─╢ 15:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding {{db-nocontext}} to a disambiguation page, repeatedly adding {{db-person}} to an article that is being worked upon and adding that tag once it has been removed is disruption. That tag explicitly says it should not be put back once it has been removed. Good to hear you don't want to squabble over it, though. Laura Davis has won a notable competition—Raw Comedy so the article should not be deleted. —Konsole4.2 (talk) 15:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's PROD tags that are not suppose to be re added when removed, not CSDs. However, an article's creator (that's you) is not suppose to remove a speedy tag. The proper course of action is to add the {{hangon}} tag and then explain why you believe the article should not be deleted on the talk page. However, in this case there is a weak assertion of importance or significance in the article so AFD is the proper venue for deciding if this article should stay or go. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- - - I am not the creator of this article I only added refs—Konsole4.2 (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, when I first looked at the history, the page must not have loaded completely. Yours was the last I saw. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 19:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you like, but please do assume good faith, and not immediately accuse other editors of being disruptive. Perhaps they (I) made a mistake, or there's just a misunderstanding. Thanks! ╟─Treasury Tag►contribs─╢ 15:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will 'assume good faith' from now. By the way the other guy or myself ar e not here to destroy Wikipedia either, so there's no need to bombard articles with {{db-crap}} repeatedly thanks—Konsole4.2 (talk) 15:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed the whole point of Wikipedia then ;) --Anime Addict AA (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Doesn't satisfy WP:CREATIVE. Claim to notability isn't supported by the underlying Raw Comedy article. The two sources (one of which appears SPS, the other of which isn't clear if RS) mentions Davis only in passing without biographical detail. At best, she's a BLP1E. THF (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Raw Comedy is Australia's biggest comedy competition. Its a part of Melbourne International Comedy Festival and I think it satisfies Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Any_biography—"person has received a notable award or honor". What's SPS, RS? It wouldn't be hard to find other sources like local newspapers which discuss this girl in detail, the two references I had added earlier are just two links I found by googling around.—Konsole4.2 (talk) 18:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by how few of the previous winners have gone on to independent notability, it's quite questionable whether winning Raw Comedy is a "notable award or honor," but even if it were, she didn't win: she got a consolation prize as the best first-time entrant that isn't even mentioned in the Raw Comedy article. That's twice-removed from notability. THF (talk) 18:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:SPS, WP:RS. ╟─Treasury Tag►contribs─╢ 18:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. —THF (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is not the winner of a major comedy competition. This is the winner of a "Rookie of the Year" prize in a Minor League comedy competition, where the winners of the full competition advance on to more significant competitions. She may get there, but she hasn't done so yet. Eauhomme (talk) 19:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because an editor's made a good faith assertion that the article is being worked on--but without prejudice to a future AfD. See WP:DEMOLISH.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 00:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, and un-connected with the AfD, I'd suggest re-naming this article to Laura Davis (Comedian). We wouldn't call an article "John Smith (Male Comedian)", would we?—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 00:08, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it should be Laura Davis (comedian) if anything. THF (talk) 00:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Or that. :) But the main point I wanted to make is that I think the AfD is premature while the article's still being actively edited.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 01:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Except that the article isn't being actively edited, and one cannot manufacture notability out of thin air, but someone contact me on my talk page if the article miraculously improves in the next five days. THF (talk) 01:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Grahame (talk) 03:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think the award and the public speaking appearances are (just) enough to get over the notability hurdle. WWGB (talk) 04:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I see little reason to delete if users can be perswaded to add to it. Its a close one though. Definatly needs to be Moved. Sephiroth storm (talk) 23:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.