Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Calvo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. After extended time for discussion, there is an absence of consensus to delete, and a reasonable argument by the majority preferring to keep that the coverage received by the subject for her historic status as a member of a national political party organization meets the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. BD2412 T 04:17, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Calvo

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Advertorialized WP:BLP of a political activist, not properly sourced as passing our notability criteria for political activists. The notability claims here are referenced entirely to primary sources (content on the self-published websites of directly affiliated organizations) or blogs, with not a shred of real reliable sourcing shown at all, and the notability claims themselves are not "inherently" notable enough to exempt her referencing from having to be considerably better. Bearcat (talk) 04:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Calvo was one of the first trans members of the Democratic National Committee and received coverage for that in The Oregonian here. She has an article solely about her in the Portland Mercury here about being the 2008 Spirit of Pride Winner. Another article solely about her in Willamette Week about her political work here. CBS profiled her as one of the trans superdelegates to the presidential election in 2016 here. Her story was used as part of the ACLU's push to have ENDA passed in an article here. She was named a "model citizen" by PQ Monthly and was on the cover of the magazine here. She was also named a Queer Hero by the Gay and Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest. I'm actually pretty confused about no "real reliable sourcing" comment. Is the nominator dismissing The Oregonian, Portland Mercury, Willamette Week, CBS, the ACLU, PQ Monthly, and the Gay and Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest as all unreliable? Perhaps a BEFORE was not done on this? --Kbabej (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the sources identified by Kbabej, WP:BASIC, and First Trans Woman Elected to DNC (The Advocate, 2013, "Laura Calvo, a transgender activist from Portland, Ore.has become the first transgender woman elected to the Democratic National Committee, according to the Statesman Journal [...] Just Out named her as one of the top 25 LGBT community leaders of the past quarter century."). The article can be revised and expanded with information from the sources identified in this discussion. Beccaynr (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ANYBIO. KidAd • SPEAK 21:50, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a very weak argument: ANYBIO is for people of extraordinary achievement. Most biography subjects fail ANYBIO but pass BASIC or one of the SNGs. pburka (talk) 21:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete That has the thinnest reason for inclusion I've ever read. The references provided above are very thin, she is mentioned as part of wider cultural movement. The reference provided above First Trans Woman Elected to DNC is a profile and is primary. The CBS reference which probably is most important above, here has three short paragraphs on her stateing McBride, a press secretary for the Human Rights Campaign in a series of comment. The rest of the article isn't about her. The ACLU entry, if it was valid would be 2nd most ref I'd would use in an article is a blog ref, WP:SPS, non-RS. The reality is, if she wasn't trans person, she wouldn't have be mentioned in the first place, which is the definition of non-notability. She is press-secretary and non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 15:06, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- This a a thoroughly confused rationale. "If she wasn't trans she wouldn't be discussed by reliable sources" is like saying "If Usain Bolt wasn't fast he wouldn't be notable". The sources indicate that her notability is tied to her being trans. pburka (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree this is a confused rationale, and this editor has completely ignored a large portion of the sources indicated above, including The Oregonian, Portland Mercury, Willamette Week, PQ Monthly, and the Gay and Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest. --Kbabej (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The subject passes WP:BASIC due to significant coverage in reliable sources, as demonstrated by Kbabej above. That she fails ANYBIO is irrelevant; subjects need only pass one SNG. That she's "only notable because she's trans" is also irrelevant; she is notable, and it doesn't matter why. pburka (talk) 20:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.