Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lancia Bike

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —cyberpower ^Chat_Online 20:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lancia Bike

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Too much conjecture, no indication of notability regarding a concept bike. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 12:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A five-year old concept with no notability. Warren (talk) 17:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Note that sources have been found. Is this above !vote based upon source searching and WP:N, or is it personal opinion? Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:57, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – ~~Meets~~ Passes WP:GNG:

Reliable sources:

Autocar Magazine article
Auto Express magazine article
(in Italian) Ciclismo Magazine article (An addendum to this !vote)
(in Italian) "Urban Bike: bike built by Lancia and Momodesign." From AllaGuida, a supplement to the newspaper Tuttogratis (An addendum to this !vote)

Other sources, the reliability of which may vary: [1], [2].

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit leery of any of your two "good" articles, which have no stated author, and the first doesn't even have a date and the second is a single paragraph, far short of significant coverage. At best, they look marginal. No one is questioning that it exists, only that it really passes GNG, which I think is still not demonstrated due to the weakness of these sources. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 02:24, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the reliable source links in my above !vote are articles from published, subscription-required print magazines. The Autocar Magazine article is definitely significant coverage. The Auto Express magazine article is short, but it's entirely about the topic. It wouldn't surprise me if there are further sources available from Italian media. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:43, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure enough, two more reliable Italian sources have been found. I've added them to my !vote above, which has now been changed from "meets" to "passes" WP:GNG. Northamerica1000^(talk) 03:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think the topic barely passes WP:GNG. The only English source that turned up in a search was Agenzia Nazionale Stampa Associata June 14, 2007: "Italian car maker Lancia Automobiles SpA, part of Fiat Group Automobiles SpA, has launched its new hypertechnological bicycle Urban Bike Lancia MomoDesign, jointly developed with local industrial design company MomoDesign, Lancia said." That might be a press release. I also found zercustoms.com/news, which may merely be a webpage rather than a Wikipedia reliable source. Northamerica1000's sources seem to lead to the idea that more reliable source material is in Italian language sources. Northamerica1000's cited magazine articles also carry weight being magazine that's published less than each day (unlike a daily newspaper). I think there might be a problem with the article title, which makes it harder to find sources. Sources called it Urban Bike - Lancia Edition,[3] Urban Bike Lancia MomoDesign (see above), Lancia MomoDesign Urban Bike[4] etc. I think Lancia told everyone that the name of the bike was "Urban Bike", but since that was too generic, the news sources had to fill in their own name for the item. I think Lancia Urban Bike is good enough for now. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:20, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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