Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamborghini Madura

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The result was redirect to Lamborghini. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lamborghini Madura[edit]

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Fails WP:N because the article is stitched together from a handful of brief news roundup and blog mentions. Many of the sources are just regurgitation of each other, for example, Car and Driver is just a rehash of Popular Science which is just a rehash Car Advice. PopSci is the longest of these short blurbs, at a mere 255 words. The standard for WP:N is sustained, in-depth coverage of the subject, not WP:ROUTINE mention based on press releases and rumor. The article also violates WP:CRYSTAL, which says "short articles that consist only of product announcement information are not appropriate." The convention for WikiProject Automobiles, WP:WPAC, says, "If an article is created about a speculative vehicle, it is to be either deleted or redirected to an article whose subject is most relevant to the redirect's subject." Note that the renderings of this speculative car show blacked out windows because the interior is only hypothetical, and they aren't even sure if it's going to be 10 or 12 cylinders, meaning no actual engineering work has been done, and they aren't sure if they will maybe make this four or five years in the future. Note that not all concept cars necessarily fail notability, but this one does. Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per proposer's argument. The Madura also doesn't seem to have been shown anywhere; it probably doesn't exist outside of a computer at a Munich university. I would support the deletion of Lamborghini Ankonian as well, for similar reasons. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect - As this seems nothing more than a proposal, not even a serious concept, I'm not quite desirous as this should be kept. That said, though, perhaps Lamborghini should gain a "#Concept_cars" section for simple mentions of things like this, allowing redirects which will (a) allow for the information to be retained in a suitable fashion, and (b) avoid future cases where somebody says "oooh, a redlink - I'll fill it!" - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I kind of agree with this. That way the information from this article isn't lost. It seems to be notable information but its too soon to have an article on its own. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:59, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per proposer's argument. This isn't a concept car, just a design study. If it had made it to a motor show, then I would agree to merging a synopsis of this design into a concept cars section in the Lamborghini article, but I am unable to find any ref that suggests a member of the general public has ever seen this car. Warren (talk) 12:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect The nominator hasn't left much to say. It seems more like an essay about an amateur design. But given mentions in some sources, I think a redirect is a good option here. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 14:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Lamborghini page. Too soon to have an article of its own but has some notable information in it. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:59, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.