Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lalaith (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Non in-universe notability not established Nosebagbear (talk) 23:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lalaith

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Utterly minor character (she is, after all, a three-year-old) who has no effect on any plot. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:35, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:16, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Her brother and sister may be notable but she is not. I actually am less than convinced we even need articles on them seperate from the article on the story in which they appear, but I do not think we need this article at all. The fact that the last discussion did not result in at least a merger is a sign of how difficult it is to undo past horrible decisions. Starting Wikipedia without inclusion criteria was a horrible plan, we are still repenting for that mistake.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete She is barely notable from an in-universe perspective. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:27, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fantasy-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 09:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna have to say delete on this one. A Spanish-language article titled "A tragédia em Tolkien: uma análise literária sobre a presença do trágico em Os filhos de Húrin" might be something, but I can't read it. Articles in Mythlore, The Journal of Literary Onomastics, and what appears to be a book review of The Children of Húrin in Tolkien Studies all appear to be plot-based mentions. Possible redirect to Túrin Turambar. Hog Farm (talk) 15:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- For all of her family I am unconvinced we really need to have seperate articles, and feel we should just provide coverage at the article on the Narn. On the other hand, that article seems a little short on plot details.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:55, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I've checked the article you mentioned (which is in Portuguese for that matter) but concerning Lalaith it only contains plot summary. It is also just a student's course assignment, so apparently not even a graduation thesis that might have counted in terms of sources. De728631 (talk) 03:22, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - When we have to scrape to undergrad non-thesis papers, we are not really finding reliable sources, or indications that the topic is of wide interest. When a paper is published it has gone through multiple levels of being accepted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Túrin Turambar. This is currently the most comprehensive article that mentions her. De728631 (talk) 03:15, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: a minor character in minor works.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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