Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake County Steelers

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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lake County Steelers[edit]

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This is a batch nomination for a series of regional football teams. I declined speedy deletion - this nomination is procedural because it seems there are real doubts about notability, but it warrants discussion. The 7other noms are:

Indianapolis Stampede
Joliet Buccaneers
Kankakee Plowmen
Kilbourn City Hawks
Mid-State Steel
Leyden Lions
McHenry County Pirates

If this is a keep or no consensus close, Chicago Mustangs (football) should be restored. Mkativerata (talk) 18:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete probably better to run these through AFD, and yes if these are kept then Chicago Mustangs should be restored. Although some have an ssertion" of notability, they are really very weak assertions. I would say it is questionable if even the league is notable. From what I can tell, there isn't even any local coverage of these teams in the local news. If the local newspapers don't even care, why should we? Further, the articles are all missing independent reliable sources and are only "self-sourced" -- most contain almost no information on the subject. It looks like the league is gearing up to use Wikipedia as a "free hosting site" for their organization. I'm sure that they are great people, play great games, and are a blast to watch--but it's just not notable for our purposes here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not as accurate as you think, last years the Steelers had games broadcasted on ESPN Radio and Blog Talk Radio. This will be the 12th year of the Lake County Steelers Football program who not only provides a good football game, gives young players the opportunity to earn college scholarships as well as some players get the opportunity to move up to the next level by playing in Arena Footbal.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Paul McDonald (talk) 19:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE Similar discussion of similar articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Illinois Cowboys.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to MidStates Football League. The league seems to be barely notable (quick google hits: [1] [2] [3] refute the "local newspapers don't even care" argument). The teams however probably aren't sourcable to establish notability outside of the league. So merging little blurbs into MidStates Football League#Teams seems to make the most sense. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note Merging may not be possible, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MidStates Football League--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks reliable independant sources. -DJSasso (talk) 14:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete alll Notability not shown with outside sources, semi-pro teams rarely notable. Reywas92^Talk 20:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.