Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Labib Hasso

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The result was redirect to Iraq at the 1948 Summer Olympics. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:34, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Labib Hasso[edit]

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Barebones stub which merely recites that Hasso was an Iraqi sprinter who competed in the 1948 Olympics. Hasso was not remotely competitive in his event, finishing with the slowest time among all competitors in the 400 metres (more than 8 seconds slower than the winning times) and failing to qualify for the quarterfinals let alone the semifinals or finals. Fails all applicable criteria: WP:SPORTBASIC (mandating at least one source with WP:SIGCOV, excluding database sources), WP:GNG (lack of SIGCOV in multiple, reliable, independent sources), and WP:NOLYMPICS (not a medalist). Cbl62 (talk) 15:36, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and Iraq. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Iraq at the 1948 Summer Olympics. There is a full length newspaper article dedicated to his historical and medical career here and it is also mentioned that he was a member of the Royal College of Surgeons here. This is probably not enough to for a "keep", but it does demonstrate that significant coverage exists, even if it is beyond the access of most Wikipedians. Thus, a redirect is appropriate until such coverage can be found. The wording of this nomination also highlights the WP:BIAS problem that I mentioned when objecting to changing the WP:OLYMPICS criteria. The policy based reasons - no demonstrated coverage - are fair, but being "not remotely competitive in his event" is irrelevant to whether or not he should have an article. After World War I, entrants were not just picked at a whim; they had notable careers in their own countries even if those careers could not match up to the world's best. The coverage of those careers, not the results of one tournament, is what matters based on Wikipedia's policy after the change. Unfortunately, coverage from Europe and North America is more easily available to Wikipedians, hence the bias. Canadian Paul 01:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Canadian Paul: Not able to read Farsi. Is the Facebook clipping of an article about Hasso? If yes, you've got some seriously impressive search skills. Cbl62 (talk) 01:41, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's Arabic and it is about Hasso. The title of the clipping is (roughly) "Dr. Potions (I'm not sure about this - might be an idiom I am unfamiliar with) Labib Hasso: Between the Scalpel Today and Sport in Days Past." I just got lucky on this one that someone uploaded a picture of the clip - I only have access to Egyptian newspapers normally. Canadian Paul 01:47, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you say the article provides significant coverage of the subject? If so, this could lead to a pass of WP:SPORTBASIC: "sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject." - Enos733 (talk) 16:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect so, but because the picture is of low quality, I technically cannot confirm it because I cannot physically read the entire text (hence redirect rather than keep). But assuming the content aligns with the title and the abstract, which it appears to from what I can read, then yes. Canadian Paul 02:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 04:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.