Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kyza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the nomination was delete all. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Kyza

Not verifiable as notable. Google gives about 2600 hits for kyza +"terra firma". [1] AllMusic says that "terra firma" is a metal band from Stockholm. [britishhiphop.co.uk] is offered as a reference for Terra Firma, but that site's own site-specific search gives only six hits -- none of them very robust.

Klashnekoff comes cloest to any verifiable noteriety: 1060 hits for Klashnekoff +"terra firma" on Google. And an empty listing (no bio, no disography, no worked with) on allmusic. Mikeblas 02:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

This nomination includes:

Kyza

Klashnekoff

Terra Firma

I don't think verifiable notability should be excepted for "underground" musicians, even when they work together as a "collective" or a "record label" that produces "mixtapes".

(PS: This is my first try at a multiple AfD, so please check my work. Preash!) -- Mikeblas 02:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete All Totally WP:NN DavidHumphreys ^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT _{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 12:08, 3 June 2024 UTC [refresh]

• Delete "...they have yet to release anything under the group's name", "...a forthcoming album...", "...the underground smash...". Fails WP:MUSIC. --IslaySolomon 02:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all, crystal-balling for non-notable group that fails WP:MUSIC. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 04:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per scrying argument. SM247^{My Talk} 23:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Klashnekoff is one of the top UK hip-hop artists currently around and more than meets the requirements of WP:MUSIC. He has two albums out on notable independent UK hip-hop labels (check Amazon), performs frequently on Itch FM (London's leading hip-hop radio station) and others, and recently was one of the headliners at BBC Radio 1Xtra's UK Takeover event in Nottingham, appearing with Kyza and the rest of Terra Firma. I wouldn't argue that the latter two entries should necessarily be retained, but Klashnekoff has to stay. PS: 87,500 Google hits for Klashnekoff (spelt thusly); listed by the BBC 1Xtra website as one of the UK's most influential artists.Efortune 12:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Here's the BBC 1Xtra page, which is neither in-depth nor a ringing endorsement. -- Mikeblas 14:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Multiple performances and interviews on 1Xtra and Radio 1 should be enough for WP:MUSIC. If you know UK hip-hop at all, you've heard Klashnekoff; the nature of the UKHH scene is such that notability is not usually established through major-label albums. Mixtapes, live performances, pirate radio, and latterly music videos on cable/satellite TV stations are the means by which these artists become important. (In fact, if it were even necessary, you could argue a case for inclusion under the 'performers outside mass-media traditions' section of WP:MUSIC...) He's one of the best-known UK rappers at the moment, so unless the argument is that UK rap is so insignificant as to be unencyclopaedic, this surely has to stay. Efortune 23:22, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Klashnekoff, along with several other UK hip-hop artists are the future of hip-hop. Simply put, simply stated. They are making records, and making waves, and they will make a splash in the United States much the same way Paul Wall, Swisha House and Chamillionaire did. They are sort of an internet phenomenon outside out of their own countries as well, as without the internet I would have never discovered their wonderful sounds.Herzogthc 02:53, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball. If this guy is up-and-coming, that's great for him; after he accomplishs something notable, a well-written and detailed article is welcomed. But not before then. -- Mikeblas 16:09, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Agree that it's probably too early for Kyza and Terra Firma, who haven't released albums yet. Klash has two out though, is widely known by UK hip hop listeners, and IMHO has to stay. Efortune 13:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.