Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kyle Davies (soccer)

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The result was delete. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Davies (soccer)

Football player, who despite being signed to professional clubs since 2007, has never actually played a game, thus failing WP:ATHLETE (note that a call-up to an U20 team does not confer notability, as only full international caps are deemed to do so). пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 08:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 08:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; recreated when/if becomes notable. Giant Snowman 11:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as above -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete fails WP:ATHLETE --Angelo (talk) 08:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep WP:ATHLETE does not supercede WP:GNG. It's just an additional guideline in case the main one isn't conclusive. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ I added some more information about his play for the U.S. U-20 team, including that he was the captain for the team during the 2009 CONCACAF tournament. ~~I think he meets WP:GNG as there seems to be a lot of coverage of him~~, and he just barely misses meeting WP:ATHLETE. Calathan (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Number 57, I think your edit summary when placing the deletion tag on the article was rude, and that as an admin you should know better. Calathan (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment of the five sources reported in the article, two of them not give notability since they are not independent sources (FC Dallas and the MLS), a third one looks more like a blog than a serious newsmaker (should not even be included in the article, actually). The only two other sources just mention of his transfers, and therefore do not cover the subject with the required amount of detail. So, to me it still fails WP:N by any stretch of imagination. And, I was forgetting, youth caps do not confer notability, only senior. --Angelo (talk) 15:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I think about it, I think you are right, so I've retracted my keep !vote. I saw a lot of different articles mentioning him when searching in Google, but the independent ones are just trivial mentions. I'm going to say weak delete for now. Calathan (talk) 15:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails notability at WP:ATHLETE and WP:N. None of the sources given are about his exploits as a player, just a blog and references to him signing contracts and being named in a youth source, which fails WP:NOTNEWS. Plenty of players sign contracts and never play a fully-professional game. Recreate if and when he does. --Jimbo^[online] 15:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. -- Alexf^(talk) 12:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.