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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Courcelles 14:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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fails WP:Notability, no? Most notable thing about him seems to be his having been the subject of a movie, so his notability seems to hinge on the prominence of this movie. (The article, at least, needs to be rewritten to say in the intro why this person is notable.) Mayumashu (talk) 12:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep. ("Weak" only because I cannot read Japanese, Korean, or Chinese to dig deeper.)Keep. It appears that the subject was notable for drawing attention to the discrimination of Korean people in Japan. [1] One article states that he became a "national hero in South Korea" after the standoff.[2] There are a few GBook hits in English for the "Kin Kiro Incident". There were a flurry of news hits in the US and Canada with a few different variations of his name (e.g. "Kim Hee Roo", "Kim He Ro", "Kim Hi-Ro"). Location (talk) 03:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]- Keep - per reasons above, and per improvements made. No reason for deletion or even a consideration of such.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:50, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:02, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep
Delete- Research by user Schmidt has persuaded me that this person meets the notability standards.Although it is true that he would be notable if he was a cause celebre ... but I'm not seeing the sources. I looked at the Korean WP article on him (xlated into English) and it cites a NY Times article, but I cannot find that article. The sources in the Korean WP article appear very marginal. Also, and this is important, the WP:CRIME guideline requires that a criminal can only be mentioned if the crime is " a well-documented historic event... . indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role." However, the few sources I see on this person merely mention the crime as a normal crime. I don't see a single source that describes it as a noble cause vis-a-vis discrimination against Koreans in Japan.--Noleander (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply] - Keep per WP:CRIME and the event being well documented[3] and the individual being the subject of study and reports 40 years after the event.[4] User:Noleander made some points that caused me to do some digging, digging which resulted in my expanding and further sourcing the article. Per Noleander's own description, the coverage of this 1968 event in a 1969 story and a 1992 film, as well as coverage in news and books years later, show this event as "a well-documented historic event... . indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role." I never heard of this fellow before I began my searches, but conclude after doing so that the man made a lasting impression on his society. Notable to Korea is notable enough for en.Wikipedia. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Wish to withdraw my nomination. It's an entirely different page now! Mayumashu (talk) 23:29, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Glad to have helped. And owe a debt of gratitude to all those above who pointed the way. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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