Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klein Oak High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Klein Oak High School

Another spam article for a school. Jmlk 1 7 06:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep as a somewhat useful article, at least potentially if not currently. It might not have the name recognition of Chuck Norris, but if I were considering sending my kids there I'd appreciate an informative description of the place. Remember WP:SENSE and WP:IGNORE. --
xDanielx
^Talk 07:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "I'd appreciate an informative description of the place"... for which the school's own website should be appropriate. In its current form, which is a simple duplication of the information and weasel-words that should be available on the school's website, while showing no notability outside existing and no sources independant of the school itself (let alone at all) the article would best be redirected with possible weak minor merge to an article on the district the school is in, if identifiable. Not-a-keep not-a-vote. -- saberwyn 11:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - just about any academic organization that was a Wikipedia article has a website. "This information could exist somewhere apart from Wikipedia, therefore this information should not exist in Wikipedia" is a non sequitur. In any case, the website likely has a very small handful of administrators, while the article can be edited by several thousand knowledgeable editors, the latter collective having much more neutral intent. You won't find commentary on such things as overpopulation, drugs, violence, etc. on the school's website. --
xDanielx
^Talk 20:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Bduke 11:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:N: No claim of notability whatsoever. WP:DIR: Wikipedia is not a school catalogue--Victor falk 13:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comments. I've cleaned this up so it isn't so horrible. There are several claims of notability here, but they're not sourced, and I'm not sure they're really that notable. (The claims are: being a "GRAMMY Signature school" and having "a nationally-recognized dance drill team".) Additionally, I'm still not convinced that high schools are inherently notable, and this one seems to have attracted loads of vandalism that went unchecked for weeks or months. I am not sure if the benefit of the article outweighs the cost of being a vandal magnet. --Fang Aili ^talk 14:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notability is established by participation in the IB Programme and the music program, but still needs work and independent sources. -- DS1953 ^talk 22:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per DS1953 or merge with ~~the county or~~ school district.--JForget 23:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep The allegation that this is spam is a baseless slur. LukeHoC 02:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Lots of coverage of school activities from WP:RS Corpx 05:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - A Google archives search shows that this article is eminently expandable. It is a huge school - over 3,000 students in itself a larger population than many small towns, an IB Diploma Programme and has now been identified as a Blue Ribbon school. TerriersFan 02:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep if it can be sourced that "Klein Oak High School has recently been named a GRAMMY Signature school for the 2006-2007 school year. Its music department has been recognized over the past decades for outstanding performances in numerous competitions." But size along does not make a high school notable--many urban high schools of of similar sizes to that. It is not asserted that is itself the largest in the states, for example,let alone there being a source. DGG (talk) 07:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Harris County, Texas — 3,000+ students? Holy smokes, that's a big school. Lacks sufficient sources for me to support it as a separate article. — RJH (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep recognition by the Blue Ribbon Schools Program and sources provided for other achievements demonstrate a strong claim of notability. Alansohn 06:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - as per discussion above, although this article would benefit from improvements. The school district as a whole is notable, as are its component high schools. Perhaps someone can improve this article to be more like its sister high school articles Klein High School, Klein Forest High School. Truthanado 16:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree that improvements are needed, but the issue is is this article spam, and is this school notable. ~~I don't think the article is spam and I believe the allegation is ridiculous.~~The spam allegation stems from a single user that is editing the articles pertaining to the district. The user in question has been contacted and hopefully their non-constructive activity will stop. The school is definitely notable because of the IB degree program (only available at this campus in the district), and I can confirm the GRAMMY Signature school recommendation, I live in the area and also know the band director.-MBK004 01:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Edited17:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep assuming it is a true fact, but need verification, 3000 students makes it notable per se as a giant high school, larger than most townships. Also keep per User:RJHall/High_Schools. Bearian 21:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.