Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Ui-Beom

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The result was delete. Nja²⁴⁷ 09:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Ui-Beom[edit]

No indication that this person has competed at a professional level; according to the infobox he has played 0 games. Fails WP:ATHLETE. PC78 (talk) 11:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep: Has competed ~~professionally~~ in a FIFA international competition with coverage in sources [1][2][3][4]. The fact that he plays/ed at the fully professional level and we can prove that with sources creates a presumption of notablity under WP:ATHLETE that I do not believe has been rebutted, and therefore I must recommend keeping the article, but improving it. Jo7hs2 (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Competing internationally at U-17 level does not appear to meet the requirements ofWP:ATHLETE or WP:FOOTYN. PC78 (talk) 11:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm not sure that I agree, but I did goof, it isn't professional level. I think there is a possibility of a presumption of notability under WP:FOOTYN #3. It (#3) certainly isn't a settled thing, if you look at the discussions on WP:FOOTYN you can see that, with some opinions running towards automatic notability, and some running against it. I personally would argue that competition in an international FIFA competition (FIFA U-17 World Cup) probably *should* create a presumption of notability. The possibility under #3, plus the coverage in sourcs, pushes me to the point of keeping the article, but I've weakened my support. Jo7hs2 (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; article fails WP:N and WP:ATHLETE. Jogurney (talk) 15:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE and general notability. Youth caps do not confer notability. --Jimbo^[online] 18:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and recreate if he plays a K-League match. John Sloan @ 18:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete yet another young footballer with no professional appearances - fails WP:ATHLETE, and, no, competing at Under-17 level is absolutely not enough. --Angelo (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. Giant Snowman 22:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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