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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nice rescue work, Hockeyben. (non-admin closure) | Uncle Milty | talk | 00:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Fiala[edit]

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Non-notable hockey player, fails WP:NHOCKEY, no evidence the subject meets the GNG. The article's incorrect assertion notwithstanding, the player's action has been exclusively in youth leagues, save for a single exhibition game (which does not count against the requirements). Ravenswing 01:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete – I agree that it fails WP:NHOCKEY and the player is not notable. United States Man (talk) 01:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Fails NHOCKEY, no sign of a GNG pass. He did play with an SHL team, but only in an exhibition tournament. Unsurprisingly, article creator couldn't even get the team he currently plays for right. Resolute 02:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep per Hockeyben's efforts. Resolute 15:26, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep – The above editors need to take another look[1]. This player specifically meets Criteria #1 of WP:NHOCKEY for having played one or more games in the Swedish Hockey League (not youth/not exhibition), which is explicitly designated as a “Top Level League” pursuant to WP:NHOCKEY/LA. Dolovis (talk) 20:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll grant you that he appears to have made a couple SHL appearances subsequent to the filing of this AfD. So yes, he meets criteria 1 of NHOCKEY. But as always, that only presumes notability. Please show the reliable sources that equate to a GNG pass that shows the presumption remains warranted. Resolute 21:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm confused ... didn't you consider NHOCKEY/LA erroneous and illegitimate? Why would you now be citing it in support of your actions? Ravenswing 00:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep - Explicity meets NHOCKEY #1. Sportspeople who have participated in leagues identified as being among the best worldwide in their respective sport have always been considered suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. This case is no different. --Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 23:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Only if they can still pass GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 23:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Here's some sources which should demonstrate Fiala's passing the GNG: A (presumably) in-depth article written in French, mostly hidden behind a pay wall, a brief mention in a Detroit Free Press article previewing the 2013 WJC, a lengthy article centered around Fiala, an article in German discussing him at length, and finally a Swedish article discussing Fiala's SHL debut.--Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 02:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for doing what Dolovis is too lazy to. Now, if you would care to add most of those into the article and turn it into something useful, I'll be happy to retract my delete !vote. (Hockey's Future is not a RS, however.) Resolute 04:29, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded. --Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 14:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Thank you. Resolute 15:26, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I still maintain my delete - just noting that he does pass NHOCKEY at this point, but I can still find no coverage of him to warrant a GNG pass. ÞórrÓðinnTýr Eh? 00:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Hockeyben's sources.  The Steve  11:57, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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