Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Maiques

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Maiques

Minor League Baseball player who has not played in any league higher than an AA (this year) and does not pass the drafted (with much consensus) Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines. There is debate within WP:Baseball about minor league players qualifying as "fully professional"

Good faith search (add quotes, keeping them messes up code in external link) brings up passing mention in articles about the team, no significant coverage of the subject, which means he fails the General notability guidelines. kelapstick (talk) 22:54, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per WP:ATHLETE.--Giants27 ^T/C 23:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Come back if/when "WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines" actually becomes a guideline. AfD hero (talk) 06:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
comment player does not pass Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#Baseball (unless MID Mid-season all-star is being selected for an all-star game, which I don't think it is) which is a more lax guideline than the proposed notability guideline either.--kelapstick (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
On the fence, leaning towards redirecting somewhere. On the keep side, we've got him as a class-A all star, and a highly ranked prospect for the Cards. On the delete side, I'm not turning up much else. I've added some sources to the article, FWIW.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:11, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And for anyone searching for sources, you'll get more hits for "Kenny Maiques" than you do for "Kenneth Maiques".--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:13, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I'm not seeing enough significant coverage from reliable sources to qualify as notable. If he does well in Class AA this year, we may start seeing more coverage. BRMo (talk) 18:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE Secret ^account 18:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Minor leagues are fully professional, therefore he passes WP:ATHLETE in the most obvious possible manner. It states A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards ... People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport AfD hero (talk) 19:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There has always been disagreement among Wikipedia editors about whether baseball's minor leagues should be regarded as fully professional. Although minor league players receive modest salaries, they are selected and employed by the major league teams and are essentially in a training / development program for the majors ([1]). Other policies, such as WP:N, WP:NOT, and WP:BLP also need to be considered. WP:N requires significant coverage in reliable secondary sources, WP:NOT says that Wikipedia should not simply duplicate information that appears in sources such as directories or news media, and WP:BLP says care is needed in creating and maintaining biographies of living persons, especially when they are "essentially low-profile" (such as minor league baseball players). BRMo (talk) 22:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete minor leaguer who does not meet requirements according to WP:ATHLETE. Mandermagic (talk) 01:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.