Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith Perry (musician)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Borderline case but certainly no consensus to delete, and since re-listing, a consensus to Keep by experienced editors (non-admin closure) Britishfinance (talk) 03:31, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keith Perry (musician)[edit]

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I created this page ages ago because I remembered his rendition of "I'm Gonna Hurt Her on the Radio". However I'm struggling to find any information on him at all besides the brief AllMusic bio. Billboard published a review of his debut single but gave him no other attention. "Keith Perry" + "Curb Records" returns nothing whatsoever on Newspapers.com -- not even The Tennesseean, a newspaper based in Nashville, saw fit to cover an artist who was on a Nashville-based label for 5+ years. The only other hits on American Radio History are passing mentions such as release dates for his singles, mentioning that he is part of the label's roster, or other uninformative fluff.

While he does meet one criterion of WP:NMUSIC with two albums on a notable label (Curb Records), one of the two was merely a covers album that got no attention whatsoever. None of his singles or albums charted anywhere, and he doesn't seem to have gotten any sort of media attention. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 09:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 09:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'll be curious to see how this AfD nomination is resolved. Many editors will cite the fact that he has an AllMusic bio plus two releases on a major label, thus an automatic "keep". Yet other's will point out that his efforts resulted in no measurable success or significant coverage and vote delete based on the "may be notable" qualifier regarding criteria. I find it a curious case study in how otherwise failed musicians are deemed encyclopedic-worthy by wiki standards, something that happens all too frequently here. I'll hold off for voting now on the possibility that significant coverage exists. After all, his career pre-dates (barely) the era of broad online coverage; sources may exist in 90's era print publications that are difficult to track down by googling. ShelbyMarion (talk) 14:06, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, there are plenty of possible sources for musicians whose careers predate the Internet age. Americanradiohistory.com has thousands of issues of Billboard, Radio & Records, Gavin Report, and other trade publications. The Nashville newspaper is on Newspapers.com and in the past has proven helpful in expanding the articles of even 80s and 90s country artists (see Tracy Lawrence, Steve Wariner, Eddy Raven, etc.). Even Dale Daniel has gotten more coverage despite having only one non-charting album on a lesser label. See also cases like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waycross (band) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Spurs where there seems to be a consensus that meeting at least one criterion of WP:NMUSIC is not always enough if reliable sources don't exist. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There's a bio and two album reviews at Allmusic. One of his albums appears to have made the Billboard Hot Country Albums chart (can't see the details in the Google Books snippet). Brief Billboard single review is here. Less brief Billboard single review here. --Michig (talk) 06:14, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard.com does not have any chart listings for Keith Perry on Top Country Albums or otherwise. What is the snippet that you found on such? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:23, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard has a habit of messing up their chart archives so I wouldn't rely on their website. Google Books gives a search result here for ["Keith Perry" curb] in Joel Whitburn Presents Hot Country Albums: Billboard 1964 to 2007, p. 321. He gets a mention, but it's hard to tell what for exactly. --Michig (talk) 07:02, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Michig:, The reference appears to be to a multi-artist album on Curb, on which Keith Perry was but one participant, and likely chosen only because Curb likes to re-issue stuff 9 billion times. Back issues of Billboard confirm that Keith Perry indeed did not have a single or album chart anywhere. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:16, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 09:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - I see "When I could fly" reviewed by Billboard here, and "All I give a damn about is you" reviewed by Billboard here, this looks like it just scrapes across the line for WP:MUSICBIO. FOARP (talk) 15:19, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the Billboard reviews add balast to the Allmusic bio and two reviews so there is enough just about to pass WP:GNG imv, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:10, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the sources mentioned above. Passes WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 02:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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