Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katherine Deves

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Katherine Deves[edit]

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I nominate this reluctantly as I am on the fence as to whether the article's subject meets WP:GNG as the majority of media coverage about her coincided with the 2022 Australian federal election. However I am confidant the article fails the requirements under WP:POLITICIAN as being an unelected candidate doesn't equate to notability. - GA Melbourne (talk) 06:53, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Politicians, and Australia. - GA Melbourne (talk) 06:53, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As article creator, to say that Deves isn't notable is difficult to say. WP:POLITICIAN states that unelected candidates do not equate to notability, not that they are not notable. What I think WP: POLITICIAN is trying to say is that articles about unelected politicians do not qualify for articles immediately, instead having to meet other guidelines such as WP:GNG. JML1148 (Talk | Contribs) 07:07, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep based on the number of articles and profiles. Yes they do not get the automatic pass based on being elected but there are multiple significant articles about them (and the impact that their selection had). Gusfriend (talk) 09:43, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:36, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep [1] offers significant coverage. This quote from the Guardian shows she was one of the most significant candidates of the 2022 election: "Deves had more mentions across metro and regional print and online news than any Liberal frontbencher, bar Morrison." [2] shows she has received media coverage months after the 2022 election. Steelkamp (talk) 15:02, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Multiple news sources about her work, passes WP:GNG CT55555(talk) 15:31, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NPOL is a positive test, satisfying the criteria establishes presumed notability. Not satisfying the criteria simply indicates there is no presumed notability, not a reason for deletion. Sourcing in the article demonstrates passing of the BASIC/GNG per Steelkamp and Gusfriend. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:50, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. WP:NPOL states that Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline. IMO WP:GNG or WP:BASIC is passed, 1, 2, 3 clearly meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:RS, as they cover in detail biographical details of Deves and her views. Additionally, IMHO this is not a case of WP:BIO1E, Deves is continuously discussed in fairly recent articles and books, e.g., this piece published in Nov 2022, this piece in Dec 2022 (though it might be debatably WP:RS, but the last RSN discussion appeared to have a rough consensus that it's a generally reliable WP:BIASED source), and this (published in Dec 2022). VickKiang (talk) 22:01, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all other reviewers. Affirmatively passes WP:ANYBIO. Cabrils (talk) 23:21, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I'm generally hesitant on candidates who are exclusively notable because of their campaign (WP:RECENTISM), but for some reason this candidate has received a disproportionate amount of media attention, providing far-and-away WP:SIGCOV. We can re-assess further in the future. Curbon7 (talk) 06:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per all of the above commenters and WP:SNOW. Sal2100 (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG Lightburst (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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