Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalanjukittiya Thankam

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The result was keep. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kalanjukittiya Thankam[edit]

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Non notable film, appears to fail WP:NFILM as nothing was found in a WP:BEFORE except film database sites, videos, and promo material.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.--Filmomusico (talk) 21:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.--Filmomusico (talk) 21:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable director and cast, meets requirements.† Encyclopædius 12:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Encyclopædius: We don't establish notability by weather the director or cast are notable. We establish by sources. The sources that you provided are not considered reliable.--Filmomusico (talk) 17:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"He is often considered one of India's most influential filmmakers". You'd expect his films to be notable. Sources don't need to be in English. Most older Indian films have poor coverage online. I have no doubt it received coverage in newspapers at the time being from such a notable director. † Encyclopædius 21:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Encyclopædius: And that quote is coming from where? From you? Or one of many of those YouTube videos? Seriously, in all honesty, I don't have anything against the director. He might be an Indian Martin Scorsese for what I care, but you still need a reliable source for any of it. Spicy Onion and YouTube aren't reliable and the rest are music sites. Even if your grandma made that movie, a reliable source is needed.--Filmomusico (talk) 22:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

His wiki article.† Encyclopædius 16:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Encyclopædius: That's not a source. Every director makes notable and not notable films, doesn't mean that they all should be included. Wikipedia is not a catalogue! Also, please read this and this.--Filmomusico (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep appears to meet some of the subsidiary elements of NFILM being a prominent filmmaker. Merger wouldn't be amiss though Star Mississippi 01:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Indian Malayalam film, Passes WP:NFILM.DJRSD (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JeepersClub. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep arguments are quite poor. Notability is not inherited by a film's director or cast, nor is it notable simply for being an Indian Malayalam film. Which specific criteria of WP:NFILM are met?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 07:20, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment Explicit mine should probably be a weak keep, which is why I was also fine with a merge, but The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of their career. appears relevant. Star Mississippi 12:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added some references. WP:BEFORE for a Malayalam movie should include looking at the corresponding article in the Malayalam Wikipedia and copying its references if they do not already appear in the English article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Specifically B7 of WP:BEFORE says: Check if there are interlanguage links, also in the sidebar, which may lead to more developed and better-sourced articles. Likewise, search for native-language sources if the subject has a name in a non-Latin alphabet (such as Japanese or Greek), which is often in the lede. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:14, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.