Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kady Malloy

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The result was redirect to American Idol (season 7) - Philippe 23:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kady Malloy

Fails Wikipedia:Notability (music) - She was only a semifinalist on American Idol (season 7) Aspects (talk) 23:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Aspects (talk) 23:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails to be considered notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurowoofwoof111 (talk • contribs) 26 March 2008

Delete also ran Ohconfucius (talk) 02:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to American Idol (season 7). -- Whpq (talk) 12:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per previous discussions. Unlike Joanne Borgella, there is nothing else to back up the creation of this article. If she comes out with a significant album or remains popular long after Idol ends, then an article can be made, but being a semi-finalist alone is not enough (it only gets her halfway to warranting an article). CrazyC83 (talk) 16:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as notable and verifiable. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Yawn. Policy is, "no Top 12, no page." ♥Shapiros10 Wuz Here♥ 16:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - that's not policy. It happens to be a frequent outcomes. -- Whpq (talk) 17:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Comment - Check Woohookitty's comment here. ♥Shapiros10 Wuz Here♥ 17:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - I fail to see your point. It being a common outcome does not make it policy. Examples of policy is verifiability. And I'm not disagreeing with redirecting, but it's not a policy. -- Whpq (talk) 17:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I misinterpreted. ♥Shapiros10 Wuz Here♥ 19:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability asserted and there are quite a number of reliable secondary sources from around the world (227 in the last month alone [1]) available for immediate expansion of this article. - Dravecky (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
delete - Article asserts she was a semifinalist on an American TV show who can impersonate someone. Article does not assert that she is notable. WP:N states "it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute evidence of sufficient notability." Outside of having appeared on a TV show, all she's asserted as doing right now is posting songs on a MySpace page and appearing in a local benefit concert. For now, coverage of her should be limited to the TV show article. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- A semi-finalist on the most highly rated show on television is notable as they appear all over the news and internet. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 17:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Actually, no. That means the show is notable. She is completely non-notable until she does something on her own to justify an article separate from that of the TV show. For further explanation, see WP:ONEEVENT. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 19:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - She's recognizable to millions of Americans and there is a likely interest in her. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 19:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:NTEMP. She may become notable in the future, but she is not yet, and speculation is not grounds for notability. --CWSensation^t 23:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Multiple issues here. She has performed maybe 3-4 times on a telivision show that may be notable, but is not notable herself. Her only claim to fame is AI. And no, they do not apper all over the news and internet. A semi-finalist is an also-ran. ♥Shapiros10 Wuz Here♥ 23:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Contestants are discussed on VoteForTheWorst and TV.com, they appear in segements on such shows as Idol Tonight, The Soup, and Countdown with Keith Olbermann in various segments, which I would collectively count as all over TV and the internet. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - You're missing my point. Having 15 seconds of fame and possibly being discussed on the internet doesn't meet WP:N. I think that you may believe that all contestants get the same sort of exposure as Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Jordin Sparks et al. ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 00:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - It's good enough for Wikipedia. If editors are interested in the topic and willing to work on the article, then there is no advantage to the project by deleting the article, which even in the worst case would be redirected without deletion to retain the edit history, but there is a possible benefit. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - There are 2 editors interested in this article, and you seem to be most of them. They have done nothing more than go on tv 3-4 times, 3 minutes each time. She has not signed a record deal. I think that you are assuming that she is getting the kind of exposure that Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Jordin Sparks et al. get. ♥Shapiros10 Wuz Here♥ 00:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        She does not need to have the exposure of the top three contestants to justify inclusion of an article. Do we have any idea how many times someone accessed or read this article? Who knows, maybe a potential donor is a fan of hers. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Read what "allglory to the hypnotoad" said. ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 11:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings." - Denis Diderot explaining the goal of the Encyclopedia. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 12:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comment - the present warming trend in the northeastern US and central Canada has appeared all over TV and the internet, but we don't have an article Northeast US gets warm on April 1, 2008, because it's not notable. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 13:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't change the fact that she is notable. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 14:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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