Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kadhal Samrajyam

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. v/r - T P 15:57, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kadhal Samrajyam

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Unnotable film featuring newcomers which was shelved in 2002 and which will not release. Editor 2050 (talk) 12:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I don't think it's an unnotable film, it was directed by a National Film Award-winning director and would have marked the career start of all those actors (who are no newcomers anymore, they debuted later in other projects and quite well known now!) Furthermore, the soundtrack had been released, which was very well notable. Why can't we keep it as a cancelled or unreleased film, the films listed in those categories do have articles as well, though they have never been released. Why don't we delete Naan Aval Adhu's article, too, which certainly will not release either? This film is as much notable as Naan Aval Adhu. Fact is, this film was a anticipated project when it was in production. Principal photography was held and filming had been completed, even its soundtrack with some popular songs was released. This article should be kept! Johannes003 (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did some work to add to the article - but still am not sure if it is notable. Editor 2050 (talk) 02:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No part of the article mentions any sort of success or acclaim fetched by the soundtrack or why it was anticipated during production. Even though the film is directed by a National Film Award winning director several of his films are certainly not notable - Selvam, Ee Abbai Chala Manchodu and Aiyampettai Kaliaperumal Indran being example. Kadhal Samrajyam falls closer to these films considering that the cast was full of debutants rather than Agathiyan's bigger films like Kadhal Kottai/Kavithai.

Also these actors have appeared in two other unnotable films before this which did not release, Poonjolai and Wanted - with the former also having it's audio released, and neither are really notable. Most of those films in those categories you have mentioned are notable hence why that's why they exist, with the only Tamil film there being Engineer - which is notable. I guess it's not really fair to compare articles, but I guess that Naan Aval Adhu's article may also be deleted due to it's lack of activity. Editor 2050 (talk) 13:19, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, obviously this article exists mainly because of the soundtrack. The songs have been released as part of this film, they are available and they will not be reused in any films. That is why this article was created in the first place. (And on a sidenote, this film's cast is not full of big stars but other than the films you mentioned, all the lead actors are known by now!) There is another long-delayed film Sadhurangam, which probably will not release, and its songs have also been released (and are well known as well!) I would also want to create an article for that film. I don't know if the release of a soundtrack is sufficient to keep such an article, but there are quite a lot articles for much more unnotable films, which do exist only because the films have seen a theatrical release. When does a film become notable? Anyway, I have nothing more to add. Johannes003 (talk) 10:14, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect to either Yuvan Shankar Raja or Agathiyan would be the most apt decision possibly. Editor 2050 (talk) 09:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing Admin This nomination appears to have never been properly listed in the deletion log. I'm adding it as of Oct 13, please use that as the date of listing when considering it for a close. Monty ₈₄₅ 21:28, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Very Salvagable, appears properly citated, organized, I see no reason to delete. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.