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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kaaneen - A Secret Search[edit]

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Fails WP:NFILM. A WP:BEFORE search found numerous mentions in listings and announcements but no in-depth coverage. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:35, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong| talk _ 01:34, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 01:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment (more like question for the nominator) Can you read Assamese? Since that's the language of the film, most meaningful coverage (if any exists) will be in Assamese so I, for one, cannot conclude that such sources are absent. I'd note that the screenwriter (if the article's info is correct) is fairly notable and that the film did win a prize (though a second prize in a festival of limited notability). Pichpich (talk) 23:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Pichpich: thanks for chiming in. I can't read Assamese and I do see your point. Pinging @Wiki.Gunjan: as the only active member of WikiProject Assam. The draft was declined at AfC for being improperly sourced, and was subsequently moved to mainspace by a sock, without any improvement. I think there is WP:BURDEN on the author to properly reference the material in the article which would give us the opportunity to run the citations through Google Translate. However they were an SPA blocked for promotion. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:18, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BURDEN is indeed a fair point at this stage, as is the possible COI so count me as leaning delete. Pichpich (talk) 23:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 15:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - the film does not meet any of the five criteria of WP:NFO - nor does it meet any of the "Inclusionary criteria" for films that fail WP:NFO - the production company, Shivam Creation, is not India's equivalent of a "major film studio" as this seems to be their only film - the guideline states, "Articles on such a film should assert that the film in question was notable for something more than merely having been produced." - the one award the film won is not a major award as required by the guideline (although the guideline notes that, "Standards have not yet been established to define a major award, but it's not to be doubted that an Academy Award, or Palme D'or, Camera D'or, or Grand Prix from Cannes would certainly be included.") - this article seems promotional only - notability not established; therefore, delete - Epinoia (talk) 20:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - need to bear in mind WP:WORLDVIEW - de jure application of WP:NFO would exclude 1,000s of notable non-English films from wikipedia. The film is an adaption of the work of a nationally recognised and awarded writer in Assamese. The film was awarded second prize at the largest film festival covering North-East India (home to 45 million people). initial creation of the article suggests WP:COI issues, but subsequent edits seem to have resolved that.--Goldsztajn (talk) 07:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.