Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/K-Salaam

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Majorly (hot!) 10:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

K-Salaam

I don't see any claims of notability, but the speedy tag I put on it was removed, so I'm bringing it here. This is a non-notable musician. Corvus cornix 02:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep. I removed the speedy deletion tag because he has released an album available on Amazon and other retailers. Further, he has received at least some independent third party coverage see [1] Google News and [2] Google News Archive. Capitalistroadster 02:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep per production credits and signed to universal the_undertow ^talk 02:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No assertion of notability. Fails WP:MUSIC.--Bryson^{Talk}^{Edits} 03:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as per Bryson above (fails WP:MUSIC) - Ctbolt 06:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak~~ Keep. ~~while I can't help properly sourcing now,~~ K-Salaam appears to be sufficiently notable per press in City Pages and Star Tribune (Minneapolis' biggest papers) possibly others passing WP:RS, but with DJs frequently getting small notice writeups it might be a borderline case of "substantial coverage".. MURGH ^disc. 12:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Suppl. I found the Star Trib feature story but wasn't going to fork up any cash for it ;) "K-Salaam")&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no -a free preview. Furthermore, as far as online music journalism sites (of this genre) these sources [3] and [4] don't look too shabby, although I'm not an expert on what passes WP:RS in music nowadays. Feels certain there is more and better to be found by the dilligent who cares deeply for this subject.. MURGH ^disc. 19:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless sources are posted. --Duke of Duchess Street 17:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. Had released an album and preformed with notable musicians within the industry. - UniReb 18:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:MUSIC. TerriersFan 20:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Well, is that a fact? Are the labels Shining Star Music and Rex Recordings Inc discountable per WP:MUSIC? MURGH ^disc. 20:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment - well, the criterion is 'major label' and neither of those seem to have an article on WP which has pages on some pretty minor labels. TerriersFan
    - Comment. Well, surely the bearing criterion for a "major label" can't be that a WP entry must be in place..? I'm in an awkward position as a deletionist usually involved with AFDs of non-notable webcomics, but in that field on a level this sourced, I'd concede that the attribution actually is in place and that a minimum level of notability is evident. I find it strange that this view isn't shared, but I gather that music is another turf altogether. MURGH ^disc. 01:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - Comment - Fair point. However, a 'major label' has notable artists signed up to it and invariably the label of a notable artist has an article. If these labels turn out to have notable artists then the situation is different and I would stand corrected. TerriersFan 18:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete At least until properly referenced. P.B. Pilhet 21:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment pardon the pedantry, but how do you delete something until it is sourced? The Star Trib article is per definition beyond within WP:RS. What this article needs is someone doing the work, not lazily stating that it should be deleted because noone bothered to apply the sources. MURGH ^disc. 01:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per P.B. Pilhet. Alleged affiliations must be attributed to notable sources. --Aarktica 22:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Aarktica, i.e. delete unless properly referenced. Stifle (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've added an external link and reference. He has been mentioned in several publications and he does feature many artists that have strong reputations on his album. He has also been signed to a label. And how exactly do you place a reference number within the article that links to the reference itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacbutteredtoast (talk • contribs) 19:53, 15 April 2007
- Perhaps the <ref> tag would meet your needs? (Please see Wikipedia: Footnotes for details.) --Aarktica 21:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I fixed the refsection, and added a few more. It would be nice if the "delete unless properly referenced" commentors take a fresh look at this point. MURGH ^disc. 22:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the citations now included in the article. Meets WP:MUSIC. --Mus Musculus (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I've categorized the article and removed an item flagged with Template:Fact; see Diff. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.