Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josephine Plehn

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The result was delete. – bradv🍁 04:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Josephine Plehn

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Fails WP:NFOOTY Mightytotems (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:46, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:57, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:57, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:27, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per GS. Polyamorph (talk) 16:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete agree with GS. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet our absurdly broad inclusion criteria for football players.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Our inclusion criteria for football players are absurdly broad for male players. That they try to delete basically any female player no matter how high-level is the opposite problem. The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. She plays in the top-tier league in Germany. (She has quite a bit of coverage on that basis, too.) That NFOOTY argues for keeping tens of thousands of articles on one-game male players who could not pass GNG in a million years but tries to suggest that top-tier women players aren't notable isn't a problem with the articles or the topics, it's a problem with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football that needs correcting urgently. The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She plays in a top tier league (Frauen-Bundesliga). Meets WP:NFOOTY. End of story. And before anyone comes at me with a claim that most female leagues aren't included, that's because of a major failing of every Wikiproject Football member on every level, whose biases on not documenting women's football is atrocious. Silverseren^C 05:18, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Playing in a top division does not mean a player meets WP:NFOOTY. The league has to be fully-professional, which the Frauen-Bundesliga is not. Number 57 14:13, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Number 57: And only two women's leagues, only in the US and the UK, count as fully professional? Sounds like a really trash system of notability and a worthless notability guideline. Silverseren^C 18:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - It is not Wikipedia's fault that only two women's league have attracted sufficient interest to become fully professional. It's like saying that WP:NPOLITICIAN is rubbish because it allows for far more articles on men than women, when the real problem is that far fewer women are elected to parliaments. Number 5 7 18:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails NFOOTY. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She meets NFOOTY, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Leagues. She plays in a top division league. Silver seren^C 23:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY, Alex-h (talk) 13:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She meets NFOOTY, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Leagues. She plays in a top division league. Silver seren^C 23:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number 5 7 14:13, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Appears to pass GNG with sources like [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], etc. all of which makes NFOOTY irrelevant. Smartyllama (talk) 19:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Article about semi-pro footballer which doesn't appear to satisfy the GNG. Plehn has only made a handful of appearances in the German top division, and I cannot find significant coverage of her career in online German-language sources (I added the most in-depth coverage from Neue Westfälische to the article, but it's pretty lean). It's the only article Smartyllama cites above that isn't a match report or article that simply drops Plehn's name (but provides no in-depth coverage). I just don't see how the GNG could be met here. Jogurney (talk) 20:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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