Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joint Baltic American National Committee

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The result was no consensus. Whether anyone has heard of something or not has no bearing on notability. Some sources were mentioned but not addressed by anyone else, so I'm uncomfortable closing with any result. ansh 666 22:17, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joint Baltic American National Committee[edit]

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An unremarkable advocacy group. Significant RS coverage not found; what comes up is passing mentions. Created by Special:Contributions/Comonomo91 with no other contributions outside this topic and edited by Special:Contributions/JBANC, an account that seems to belong to the org (JBANC is the acronym of the group). Does not meet WP:NORG. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Latvia-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lithuania-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP, an organisation that represents over a million Americans of Baltic heritage. It was instrumental in lobbying the US government to maintain its non-recognition policy of the Soviet annexation of the Baltic states, and upon re-independence successfully lobbied for NATO admission. The organisation is significant enough that the Presidents of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, no less, have delivered keynote addresses at the Committee's annual conferences. Meets WP:NONPROFIT in that their scope is clearly international, and the organization’s longevity, size of membership and major achievements have been reported by multiple independent reliable sources. --Nug (talk) 10:42, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:07, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No, an organization that claims to represent Americans of Baltic heritage. (My grandfather was Lithuanian; if they represent ME, why haven't I ever heard of them?) That national leaders have delivered speeches there is a bit fat WP:NOTINHERITED. If they've allegedly had an impact on this, and had major achievements that, then there should be reliable sources giving the outfit significant coverage, right? Where is it then? Nha Trang ^Allons! 14:19, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, given that a quarter of Americans don't know the Earth actually circles the sun[1], the fact that you haven't heard of JBANC isn't that significant. It's a joint committee which includes the Lithuanian American Council. The mention of Baltic state presidents addressing the committee's conferences has nothing to do with WP:NOTINHERITED, but rather to demonstrate the scope of their activities is international in scale, which is one of the criteria for notability per WP:NONPROFIT. There is significant coverage in multiple sources in regard to the organisation and its role in lobbying the US government on Baltic issues, which I am in the process of adding. --Nug (talk) 01:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It is irrelevant how many people the organisation represents, but there are enough sources to demonstrate Notability. For example, under Lithuanian name "Jungtinis Amerikos baltų tautinis komitetas" it is mentioned in [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] (in turn, a review of a book, presumably describing the organisation in more detail). Different variants of the name exist, there are likely to be some Latvian and Estonian sources as well. Under the English name there are mentions like [7] (an article dedicated to the organisation; independence of the source is somewhat questionable - it seems to be written by one of its leaders, but in a journal that is likely to be independent of the subject), [8]... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 01:12, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:22, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Ifnord (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all reasons listed above AND they aren't an official government organization and few have heard of it, so fails WP:NCORP Redditaddict69 (talk) 06:19, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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