Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny White's

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 01:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny White's[edit]

"a bar in New Orleans known for the fact that it remained open despite Hurricane Katrina". A perfect case of WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEEVENT, not to say it is just a promo. - 7-bubёn >t 22:50, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep subject has had significant coverage in reliable third part sources. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] It's a well known and famous bar notable for never closing, and that's even before you mention the bit about remaining open throughout hurricane katriana. It's been featured in a number of newspaper articles linked, and other travel guides of new orleans.--Patton^t/c 23:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- <shrug> - 24/7 not big deal. Travel guides and stuff are insufficient for notability. Every pizza hut outlet in Apopka is described in Apopka News Weekly. - 7-bubёn >t 23:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, but have they been featured in the San Francisco Chronicle? This is clearly not just a local interest article. JulesH (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 23:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No substantial coverage of subject detected. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There's plenty of coverage. WP:ONEEVENT doesn't apply as it is about people, not organisations. WP:NOTNEWS is an essay, and while I respect its goals, it does not override WP:N, whose conditions this article meets. I see no reason we cannot have an article on this establishment which is clearly a well-known and important bar in a city known worldwide for its bars. JulesH (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I haven't looked at the sources for this, so don't have a recommendation for this particular article, but I would invite participants to consider whether they would keep an article on, for example, an establishment in Iran that got press coverage there for staying open during an earthquake. Let's make sure that we keep a neutral perspective here. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at the sources offered. They mention that this place is a bar and that it exists. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete notability not demonstrated. Laudak (talk) 00:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.