Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John and Elvis Are Dead

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ^BE _CK ^Y _SA ^{Y L}E _S 05:21, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John and Elvis Are Dead[edit]

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Notability is not inherited, nor has it been established in the content of the article. It did not chart. It has not won any awards. It is simply a song on an album. Kellymoat (talk) 14:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep incorrect statement from nom, this is a single by George Michael, the article explains why it was the final single of the album and why it was not released as the other five. This particular personal song also had various mentions in newspapers across Europe in the days following GM's recent death. A constructive editor could pick a couple to add. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note also: It would also be rather strange for this to be the only single on the Twenty Five (album) greatest hits 2CD to not have an article. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be more accurate, the article says that it is ineligible for the UK Charts (because it was a download). But it wasn't ineligible for charts everywhere else. Therefore, no, it did not chart. Kellymoat (talk) 14:55, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

sock strikeKeep The song was released as a single. Plain and simple GM25LIVE (talk) 15:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So it exists but how does that make it notable.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:12, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

sock strikeThe song has a music video, played live during concert tours and included in two GM albums: Patience and SymphonicaGM25LIVE (talk) 15:17, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Every night, at every concert, every artist sings 40 songs live in concert. Do all 40 songs from every artist need their own page? Why is this song so special that it needs an article? Kellymoat (talk) 15:28, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

sock strike~~It does establish a notability when a song being played live in concert tours. I don't believe that artists perform unworthy songs during their concert tours~~ GM25LIVE (talk) 15:40, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

sock strikeKeep- The song was included in the artist's Greatest Hits compilation. Faithtour (talk) 15:53, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Patience (George Michael album). No significant coverage. Arguments that it is notable because it is a single or sung on tour are not valid. P.S. Notable and unworthy are not antonyms. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:34, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -As one of the 25 songs on the Greatest Hists compilation, it is notable. It was also discussed in a couple of his biographies as well as the news articles mentioned above by In ictu oculi ABF99 (talk) 03:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I'm just looking at those Dutch and Italian sources. It may well have seen a surge in attention to this song because of Michael's own death, but the second page of News hits are mentioning the video before his death. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you already cast a vote for this artice?Kellymoat (talk) 12:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, f eminist 10:46, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 01:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.