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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Wizardman 15:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unnecessary sub-article - subject adequately covered by List of designated terrorist organizations. Also, the opening line contains a somewhat dubious definition. PhilKnight (talk) 13:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 'OMG KEEP' it may be libelious, but as long as it has references, we can say anything on Wikipedia, NPOV be damned! Seriously, though, delete, per WP:TERRORIST Sceptre (talk) 14:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sarcasm and strawman arguments are not helpful in Wikipedia discussions. --Explodicle (T/C) 19:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - A similar AfD came up not too long ago. The rough consensus was that there was no clearly defined Hindu terrorist movement, and there were insufficient sources to establish notability. However, this topic seems to be better established. Chapter 3 of this source and others seem to address the topic directly in detail. POV statements or any other temporary problems are a good rationale for improvement, not deletion. --Explodicle (T/C) 19:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I'm going to exercise my right to "not go there" and abstain, except to say if this article is keep, it needs to be given another title, as the current title is inflammatory and violates WP:NPOV. 23skidoo (talk) 20:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you think we should do the same thing with Christian terrorism and Islamic terrorism? --Explodicle (T/C) 20:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, per now. At some point there might be needed a centralized discussion on the various 'terrorism by topic' articles (like Christian terrorism, communist terrorism, nationalist terrorism) which have serious delimitation problems and are generally unuseful, but pending the outcome of such a process, I'd say that this is a valid article on real-life political phenomena and could thus stay. --Soman (talk) 21:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep seems a valid subject of note. There's nothing wrong with the title, it is clear and neutral. Wikipedia is not censored. I think the article could do with expanding to cover historical zionist terrorism such as King David Hotel bombing which is oddly absent. --neon white talk 02:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment when I saw the title, I thought it was about terrorism by Jewish Zionists in British Palestine and related activities towards establishing an Israelite homeland, but the contents of the article don't match my expectations... if there is such an article, redirect to it. 70.55.84.50 (talk) 07:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: That's what I was expecting too, and I'm still looking for it. - Denimadept (talk) 14:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe the article Zionist political violence is being consider for a merge. I'm not too sure, there are obvious overlaps but not all political violence is terrorism but most of the article does seem to cover what would normally be considered terrorism. --neon white talk 14:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep we have articles on terrorism from other major religions.The title 'Jewish terrorism' seems to do exactly what it says on the can-outline that the article is about terrorist groups of a Jewish nature-without showing either support or opposition to them Lemon martini (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added in order to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 13:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you saying the sources do not exist (see above), or that no one has gone to the trouble of adding them yet? --Explodicle (T/C) 14:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: what this article needs is to be improved with things like links to groups such as Lehi (group), and Irgun, not the JDL. - Denimadept (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: or merge with Zionist political violence. The article can be improved with the inclusion the the original organizations like the Stern Gang and Haganah and an explanation of the groups' religious character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Am86 (talk - Am86 (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong and speedy keep, obviously notable has reliable sources, expand yes, delete no.MY♥INchile 17:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Well-sourced valid topic. Article needs further development, not deletion. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.