Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Marbles (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) TheSpecialUser ^TSU 00:55, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jenna Marbles[edit]

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Not notable, fails GNG, technically this is WP:BLP1E in that she has no coverage for anything besides the one Youtube video, and that for only one clip. GNews shows no coverage beyond the 1 event (and only shows a couple of hits for it), GHits is all social media. GregJackP Boomer! 14:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

have you any reason why the arguments for keep in the previous AfD are not valid? (I myself have no opinion on the notability of this subject, and am just asking in order to clarify the nomination) DGG ( talk ) 18:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you check the refs found by Fetchcomms, you'll find that most are from the same wire-service story, released by AFP/Relaxnews, and was picked up by their clientlist. It looks like AFP picked up the alternative paper LA Weekly's story and ran with it. One wire story is still just one ref, regardless of the number of locations it appears and how many outlets run it. See WP:BOMBARD. One ref (Boombox) is a blog. Whether it is reliable or not I would defer to the community, but as a general rule, blogs are not reliable sources. I did check RSN first (realizing that its absence does not mean it is not reliable, but just that there hasn't been a determination yet). I hope that answered your question. If not, please drop me a line here or on my talkpage. Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 03:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

as I said, i have no opinion, but I asked because of the 5:2 keep:delete count at AfD1 4 month ago. What you say is of course a valid point--except to the extent that if other papers reprint it, they think it's worth reprinting. DGG ( talk ) 04:24, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem - I am always happy to explain, and if I am incorrect in my assessment, to learn from my error. GregJackP Boomer! 04:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, there appears to betwo (1, 2) article that gives the subject significant coverage, however the majority are only passing mentions of the subject, yet this should be sufficient to keep per WP:GNG.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable YouTube celebrity represented by significant secondary sources. She's famous for what she does. Viriditas (talk) 23:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as having insufficient in-dpeth coverage in independent third party sources to meet WP:GNG. If such sources are added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. The two articles give in-depth coverage of grinding, not the subject. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I should not have to ping you at all—you should have to follow WP:BEFORE. Jenna Marbles is a famous YouTube star whose notoriety has been covered in reliable sources around the world. A very small sample and snippet:
  - July 13, 2010, Boston Herald: (profile)[1]
  - July 16, 2010, New England Cable News: (profile)[2][3]
  - July 22, 2010, Inside Edition: (profile)[4]
  - December 29, 2010, Track Gals TV: (profile)[5]
  - August 25, 2011, Townsville Bulletin: "American YouTube funnygirl Jenna Marbles is a favourite in the Savvy office. Her tongue-in-cheek videos poke fun at everything Gen Y and pop culture..."
  - January 6, 2012, Democrat and Chronicle: "Mourey, 25, a Brighton High School graduate, is one of Youtube’s most popular personalities. Her most watched video, “How to trick people into thinking you’re good looking," described above, has been viewed more than 32 million times on YouTube. “It’s unfathomable to me," said Mourey, who now lives in Santa Monica, Calif. “Even a million people is unfathomable. That that many individual humans have clicked the subscribe button to my channel because they want to see my video every Wednesday, you can’t wrap your brain about it."[6]
  - January 12, 2012, The Sun: [7]
  - January 15, 2012, The Sunday Star-Times: "Jenna Marbles is a blogger YouTube users love to hate. Perky, blonde and American, she makes regular videos about her "magestical daily life" - and is a major hit in cyber space."
  - January 19, 2012, The Collegian: (profile and analysis)[8]
  - February 7, 2012, The Merciad: (profile) [9]
  - February 27, 2012, The Daily Dot: "Jenna Marbles made YouTube history this month when she became the first woman ever to break into the top 10 most popular channels on the video sharing site...Jenna Marbles, whose real name is Jenna Mourey, began her channel in the summer of 2010, and rose to the top of the YouTube charts with lightning speed due to her sassy, smart and sexy videos...Since YouTube was founded in 2005, men have dominated the top 10 list of most popular and most subscribed-to channels, despite YouTube’s audience being evenly divided between males and females. Perhaps Mourey’s rise to YouTube fame will clear the way for other women."[10]
  - April 20, 2012, The Washington Post: "Jenna Mourey's "JennaMarbles" is the second-most subscribed to channel in the comedian category this month. The 25-year-old blogger launched her YouTube channel in February 2010, and it already has 2.8 million subscribers and more than 474 million video views. Mourey is the top female YouTube star, according to The Post's Tsukayama."[11]
  - April 20, 2012, Daily Mail: "Jenna Mourey, an American YouTube personality who is known as Jenna Marbles, has uploaded a hilarious video of herself applying make-up and offering step-by-step advice while claiming to be drunk. It has received 1.5million hits."[12]
  - May 17, 2012, LA Weekly: (profile) "...she already probably makes six figures from YouTube ad revenue...despite her success, Marbles still films her videos with her laptop camera in her bedroom, which, one recent day, was littered with T-shirts and shampoo bottles."[13]
  - May 18, 2012, LA Weekly: (interview)[14]
  - May 21, 2012, India Today: "Surprisingly, the most popular woman on YouTube is not a singer or a vacuous reality tv star, but a comedian. Jenna Marbles, 25, has almost three million subscribers to her webcam-style videos ranging from sarcastic pieces of advice on looking good, dating and even discussing flatulence with her dogs."
  - May 24, 2012: Daily Mail: "The YouTube star, who has her masters in sports psychology from Boston University, was recently profiled in LA Weekly. Her page has nearly 3million subscribers, and her weekly videos hilariously portray the struggles and injustices of being a young woman in a modern age."[15]
  - July 1, 2012, New York Times Magazine: "Then there are the YouTube stars -- people like Ray William Johnson, Mystery Guitar Man, Smosh, Michelle Phan, the ShayTards, Jenna Marbles, Freddie Wong, What the Buck or Philip DeFranco. If these names mean nothing to you, trust me: these are famous, successful YouTubers. Their videos get millions of views, and because they get a share of the resulting ad revenue, they are almost certainly among the hundreds that the company says earn six figures or better from their videos."
- I think you get the idea. Tons of sources, tons of coverage. Viriditas (talk) 12:26, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, and great job to Viriditas (talk · contribs) for going the extra mile to do the research to demonstrate the more than ample coverage and significant discussion from secondary sources. — Cirt (talk) 22:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Wow, it had to be Viriditas :) Good work. — ΛΧΣ21™ 00:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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