Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean Baptiste Sipido

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 01:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Baptiste Sipido

CSD was challenged on th talk page, therefore we need a discussion on this one paragraph entry with no context, references, or statement of notability. I'd vote delete. Harr o5 09:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-notable person, only 29 Google results [1] --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 09:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This was never a legitimate speedy candidate, as mentioning somebody as having attempted to assassin the Prince of Wales is, at the very least, an "assertion of notability". I've found a few references. The Times (obviously) reported on the case, There is an article by a "Dr Speyer" (no first name is mentioned), "The Legal Aspects of the Sipido Case", in the Journal of the Society of Comparative Legislation 1900. There is also an entry for him in the WBIS Online with a reference to a Belgian biographical dictionary (I'll see if I can find that one in the library). As an alternative, we could consider deleting Sipido and adapt Wikipedia policy to report on things in exact proportion to the number of Google hits, in which case we really need to get up to speed with increasing our coverage of naked blonde women with big boobs. u p p l a n d 10:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Except they dont need to be blonde Im ok with that Defunkier 13:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I challenged the CSD, so here's why: Sipido took part in a real, if minor, historical event that played a part both in the history of anarchism and the history of the British Empire. An assasination attempt on the heir to the British throne during a time of imperial war is important and notable. I'd like to see a better article here (it should be tagged {{expand}} and probably {{cleanup}} too) but I don't believe this should be deleted. If Wikipedia is an encyclopedia it should cover this sort of material. Gwernol 13:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Back from the library. The Belgian Biographie nationale, vol. 42 (1981), has a fairly long article on Sipido on pp. 662-679. A Google Books search also turns up a couple of useful hits. u p p l a n d 14:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if expanded. At the very least, the article needs to decide whether it is about the event (in which case the title changes) or the person (in which case it needs to be rewritten as a biography). JPD (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't see anything in notability criteria that distinguishes between assassins who shoot and kill, assassins who shoot and wound, and assassins who shoot and miss. Squeaky Fromme, John Hinckley, Leon Czolgosz. Monicasdude 16:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep An assassination or attempted assassination of an important person makes him notable enough for mine. Capitalistroadster 23:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and clean up per above Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 23:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Needs work, but worthy of coverage. -Colin Kimbrell 14:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.