Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean-Pierre Giroud

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The result was keep. per David E. DGG ( talk ) 21:08, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jean-Pierre Giroud

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Sourced only by a wiki entry and a self-penned biographical note - repeating some of the note's peacock descriptions. The article's author has stated "the only reliable source about the article can be obtained by his own page" - obviously not notable. Cabayi (talk) 08:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this wretchedly put together article (one more and not the last, by a mile) about, nonetheless, a Wiki-notable subject. WP:ANYBIO states that the person must have "received a well-known and significant award or honor." The subject is a chevalier in the Légion d'Honneur, France's highest decoration. -The Gnome (talk) 10:45, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the highest decoration is a Grand Croix in the Légion d'Honneur. A chevalier is four levels below that, and as such is a low-level decoration, roughly equivalent to an MBE in the UK. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - only two sources, both unreliable. Please. Bearian (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is a German article on the subject, but not one in French, which is strange considering he is French and his conferral as a chevalier. Simone2049 (talk) 11:33, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:35, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Top cites on Google scholar for JP-Giroud (after filtering out the medical ones with a similar author name) are 396, 238, 204, 190, 174, 142, 139, 136, 121, 118, ... with 10 papers having over 100 cites and an h-index of 31. That's enough to convince me of a pass of WP:PROF#C1, even if his awards are too low-level for notability that way. And membership in the US National Academy of Engineering (for which I just added a source independent of the subject) is a clear pass of #C3. This article is indeed a mess but that's not an issue for AfD. And the nomination statement about what the author has said about sourcing is also not particularly relevant; it comes across more as one editor's misunderstanding how Wikipedia works than as proof that proper sources are unavailable. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:PROF as explained above, but certainly not per WP:ANYBIO. There are over 70 thousand chevaliers in the Légion d'Honneur, and most are not notable. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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