Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jared Siefert

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 02:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jared Siefert

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Racing driver that has not competed in a fully-professional series. Fails WP:ATHLETE/Motorsport and WP:GNG. Drdisque (talk) 23:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The first three references, used for seven citations, came up not found. Hard to support notability, when there are only two working refs, one of which is subscription only.--SPhilbrick T 21:37, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - under 10,000 hits. T3h 1337 b0y 20:02, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Here's why I wrote the article: 1) He was a national champion. 2) There are 5 reliable sources in the article from 4 different sources. All are either reliable well-respected newspapers or regional/national level racing magazines. Sources were all valid when the article was written - so what if they aren't active today. That's why Wikipedia:Linkrot was written. Per the guide "WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link, nor does it require the source to be published on-line." Ghits have not been considered a reliable standard for a long time. I've never had a subscription of any kind like this, so that link must have turned into a subscription-based. So it is an article about a national champion that passes WP:GNG. Royal broil 23:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete - The links are still broken and while links aren't necessary, it helps to evaluate the depth of the notability. In this case, the link that is functioning, appears to me to be small scale localized coverage. I don't think it meets the ATHLETE criteria either, but some national or wider coverage could go the other way Shadowjams (talk) 01:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Appears to be semi-pro athlete on cusp of notability? Article requires further development and better referencing. Nineteen Nightmares (talk) 02:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Nineteen Nightmares[reply]

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