Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Kazama

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The result was delete. Nobody is persuaded by the sources found by Cunard. Sandstein 09:11, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

James Kazama

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Non-notable actor - no in-depth coverage to be found in reliable sources in English, Chinese, or Thai that I can see. Does not meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. In addition, article is unsourced, promotional and largely created by a series of WP:SPAs so WP:TNT applies. Ganesha811 (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Ganesha811 (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Hong Kong, and Thailand. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:21, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and Fashion. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. 溫菁莉 (2017-10-12). "【使徒行者2】Mr. White大有來頭　泰國銀行經理精通7國語言" (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2022-03-09. Retrieved 2022-03-09.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "It turns out that James Kazama, who played Mr. White, has a lot of backgrounds. He is an actor and a voice actor with multiple jobs. He also is an international model and singer! In addition, he needs to know and speak many languages, French, Japanese, Thai, Spanish, and German, so many talents! ... It turns out that James grew up in Hong Kong and Bangkok, so he even knows Thai! In 1997, James returned to Hong Kong to perform in theaters. At the same time, he also debuted as a voice actor, dubbing many famous films, series and cartoons in Asia."
2. "《使徒行者2》Mr. White來頭唔嘢小　宣萱麥明詩唔同晒？". Oriental Daily News (in Chinese). 2020-08-20. Archived from the original on 2022-03-09. Retrieved 2022-03-09.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Qiu Zhanhui has a lot of background. He was born in Hong Kong and grew up in Thailand. He is proficient in 7 languages: Chinese, English, French, Japanese, Thai, Spanish and German. He has worked with superstar Chow Yun-fat and Thai martial arts superstar Tony Jaa. In addition to being an actor, he is also a voice actor. He once dubbed the role of "Red Squid" in the cartoon "The Future" in Cantonese. In addition to his acting career, he is also very business-minded. He has opened restaurants in Hong Kong and Europe, and the high standard of food has won high praise from local diners."
3. 黃梓恒 (2020-08-20). "【使徒行者2】Mr. White真人勁有型　丘占輝仲係飲食界猛人" (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2022-03-09. Retrieved 2022-03-09.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Unexpectedly, in addition to doing business and acting, he has also served as the "Digital Currency Issuance and Computing R&D Manager" of Thai banks and telecommunications companies, which is really versatile."
4. Sherry (2017-10-12). "隱藏版極品天菜！使徒行者Mr.White真人超有才，識9種語言又有商業頭腦，上天也太不公平了～" (in Chinese). PressLogic. Archived from the original on 2022-03-09. Retrieved 2022-03-09.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "He is fluent in Cantonese and even understands Thai. The most surprising thing is that he can speak Mandarin, French, Spanish, German, Japanese and Teochew in a total of 9 languages. ... He worked as an e-money issuance and computing R&D manager at the Siam Commercial Bank of Thailand, and is now the CEO of an e-money company."
5. Cheung (2017-10-13). "【使徒行者2】精通7國語言　Mr. White真身唔止藝人咁簡單！". Modia (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-03-09. Retrieved 2022-03-09.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "In addition, he flew to Brussels to settle for a period of time in 2004, and participated in the Fashion Show and performances in different dramas, integrating actors, voice actors, and models! However, his identity is not only an "artist", but also a businessman. He opened the famous "La Fu" restaurant in Hong Kong in 2002 and served as the head chef."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow James Kazama (traditional Chinese: 丘占輝; simplified Chinese: 丘占辉 to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added these sources to the article. Cunard (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for finding these sources. I'm unconvinced they show real notability. They are pure fluff coverage that may as well have been a press release from Kazama's agent. In fact, all the pieces are so similar that I strongly suspect they were all based on a press release from his agent. They all also seem to relate only to his appearance on 使徒行者2, a HK television show. Is there any reliable coverage for any other part of his career? Ganesha811 (talk) 13:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The subject received significant biographical coverage in 2017 and 2020 in bylined sources for his role in zh:使徒行者2. That he received significant coverage three years apart is sustained coverage that is sufficient to establish notability per Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. I did not find significant coverage that did not relate to his role in zh:使徒行者2. The articles contain some similar information and some different information. Some of the sources say he speaks seven languages (Chinese, English, French, Japanese, Thai, Spanish, and German), while some include Chinese dialects and say he speaks nine languages (Cantonese, Mandarin, Teochew, English, French, Japanese, Thai, Spanish, and German). I searched for quotes from each article and could not find any evidence that the articles are based on press releases from his agent. Cunard (talk) 07:51, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:25, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lots and lots of PR and no in-depth coverage to speak of. scope_creep^Talk 13:29, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Each of these five articles has James Kazama as its subject. They discuss his biographical background in detail. I do not agree that there is "no in-depth coverage" about him. Regarding "Lots and lots of PR", I could find no evidence that these sources are based on PR. The sources were published in 2017 and 2020. It would be unlikely for a PR campaign about this to last three years. Cunard (talk) 09:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete. Just fails WP:NACTOR and WP:SIGCOV. While Cunard has done an admiral job in locating sources, it's my opinion that the sources are not in-depth enough to meet the criteria at WP:SIGCOV. Further, it's not clear that as an actor has had enough significant roles to pass NACTOR. As such, this is a case of WP:TOOSOON where the subject is approaching our notability criteria but has not yet met the threshold.4meter4 (talk) 18:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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