Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Baird (footballer) (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —UY Scuti ^Talk 19:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

James Baird (footballer)[edit]

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WP:N, WP:V. Article claimed that he played in the Scottish and Trinidadian leagues, but there does not seem to be evidence of this. I checked the statistical sites for the Scottish clubs and there is no evidence of him playing at a first team level, let alone in a fully professional league. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:06, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the last AFD (nearly 10 years ago) did not provide any evidence of notability. This one now has. Giant Snowman 17:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It's an odd article which reads like a puff piece and Azeem Azam came to mind (especially given that many of the Google hits are interviews rather than match reports). However, I uncovered these match reports from his time playing in the TT Pro League, which is an WP:FPL, so he does pass WP:NFOOTY. Pinging GiantSnowman. Number 5 7 10:39, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the last AFD clearly established played has played in Trinidad league listed in WP:FPL - so why are we here, and why has nominator not pointed out what was wrong with last AFD? TNfitz (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article, when I found it, was mostly puffery and full of made-up statistics. I don't see how it meets WP:GNG. Where is the significant coverage in multiple independent sources? Jmorrison230582 (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per Number57 passes WP:FOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:43, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Passes NFOOTY, has played in a fully professional league or in a match in the competition proper (i.e. not qualifying rounds) of a cup competition which involved two teams both from FPLs. Additionally, sources already in the article indicate likelihood of wider GNG. Agree with comments above though that it could do with some copyediting for neutrality. Fenix down (talk) 08:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Satisfies WP:NFOOTY and AFD is not cleanup. Smartyllama (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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