Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamaat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:38, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jamaat

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This is not a valid disambiguation page: all entries are WP:Partial title matches not known solely as "Jamaat". An alternative to deletion might be a {{Wiktionary redirect}} to wikt:jamaat. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no disambiguation needed. Leschnei (talk) 16:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep as I don't think there is actually any harm in having this as a DAB, especially as the alternative proposal is a redirect to a wiktionary page which essentially just repeats what the headline in the DAB says. I don't know if WP:PARTIAL has the same relevance when it comes to arabic, rather than latin. Many of the listed pages seem relatable to the topic, and without a clearly identifiable primary topic article to take it's place, I think the DAB remains the better option. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:09, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 03:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As the vast majority of the items are related to Islam, I have added it to the Islam delsort. 03:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Keep or merge. As I was saying on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamiat, all of the terms on these pages are actually derivatives of the same root word, many of them are just rendered with different transliteration in English. This is simply an Arabic word that means "group," but there are a wide range of organizations using it in their name since it is a prevalent loanword in Indonesian, Urdu, and Swahili. Also, many of these terms appear with multiple different spellings in English, so the WP:Partial title match reasoning doesn't hold up in this case. You can see this in pages like Jamiat Kheir, where the excerpt reads "Jamiat Kheir (Jam'iyyatou Khair; Arabic: جمعية خير; Arabic pronunciation: [dʒamʕijjatu xair]; different Latin spellings have also been used in the past, such as Djamiat Chair, Djameat Geir, Djamijat Chaer, Jam'iyyat khair or Jamiatul Khair)" Similar examples can be found on many pages that include Anglicized Arabic terminology. Perhaps there is a need to standardize transliterations on Wikipedia, but until then, it's necessary to consider different transliterations of the same word or concept as being the same, even if there are large discrepancies in the English spelling. Chagropango (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All WP:PTM, and Chagropango is correct that this is essentially the same as Jamiat: جماعت (assembly) is a Persian loanward from Arabic جماعة. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 18:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:04, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:28, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep At least two of the articles (Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan and Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami) mention this as a shorter form of the party's name. Peter James (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:PTM KSAWikipedian (talk) 15:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.