Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jakarta ePrix

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Technically "weak keep" is the consensus. The deletion reasoning is, in a sense, WP:CRYSTAL. Those arguing indicated that sourcing supported an article because of coverage that existed distinctly from the yet to occur race. That position represented a rough consensus Nosebagbear (talk) 11:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jakarta ePrix[edit]

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Way too early. Recreate this page after the race is first held. --RemoteMyBeloved (talk) 08:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 December 6. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 09:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If it is written about, and there is tangible information about it, it does not fail WP:CRYSTAL. Geschichte (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Crystal? What is that? --RemoteMyBeloved (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RemoteMyBeloved: Per WP:CRYSTAL (1): "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." Geschichte is expressing that this article does not fail that policy. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 19:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep – The nominator's rationale is very vague and does not make mention of policy. The relevant guideline here is the WP:GNG, since the subject is not an individual event but the article for a recurring competition (that is yet to have its first occurrence). I am not familiar with Formula E, but the subject does appear to be getting coverage, particularly in relation to the construction of the track. It is quite normal amongst motorsports projects to create articles like this well in advance (for example, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar in Formula One) since they receive coverage independently of the individual occurrences (i.e. the Jakarta ePrix receives coverage independently of the 2022 Jakarta ePrix). 5225_C (talk • contributions) 04:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - Per 5225C. This page being created at this time seems fairly standard. Editors more familiar with Formula E may have stronger arguments in favour of keeping or deleting this article, but I this appears to meet the WP:GNG. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - I choosing keep because there are currently numerous controversies involving Formula E in Jakarta that currently not included in the article, but still taking place by December this year, that leads Corruption Eradication Commission to investigate the Formula E controversies [1] and to a failed interpelation of Anies Baswedan in August 2021 led by Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle and Indonesian Solidarity Party [2]. The controversies include uncertain exact locations [3] and high number of commitment fees [4]. I would like to add these, if the decision of this deletion discusion was "keep". —DanielWhernchend • talk 05:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.