Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaimie McEvoy

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 19:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jaimie McEvoy[edit]

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Article about a political figure, not properly sourced as passing WP:NPOL. The main notability claim here is that he served on the municipal council of a mid-sized suburban city, which is not "inherently" notable -- at the local level of office, the notability test is not passed just by verifying that the person exists, but by writing and sourcing substantial content about his political impact. But while this is at least trying to head in that direction with some statements about specific projects he's been involved in as a councillor, it's completely failing to source them properly: the only two footnotes here are the city's self-published list of its council members on its own website and a book he wrote himself circularly cited as verification of its own existence, neither of which are support for notability. We need to see third-party coverage about his work in sources independent of himself, not stuff he had personal editorial control over.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced much, much better than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Councillor from fairly small city, nothing to indicate they are among the small number of local politicians to meet notability requirements solely on the basis of involvement in local politics. Article is also written in a vaguely promotional way and we need to avoid Wikipedia being used as a venue for promotion. AusLondonder (talk) 15:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Health and fitness. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 1. New Westminster is not a small city by Canadian standards, and even it was, it is part of the Greater Vancouver Regional District and Translink, and New Westminster politicians usually play important roles on those bodies.

2. Mr McEvoy's book deals with an important episode in local history. Prescottbush (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The test for the notability of municipal politicians doesn't hinge on whether the city is large or small "by Canadian standards" — it hinges on whether the city is large or small by worldwide standards. That is, internationally famous global cities like London, New York City, Los Angeles, Toronto or Tokyo are the only ones whose city councillors get extended any kind of guaranteed notability just for being city councillors per se — in any city outside of that rarefied class (even a suburb within the metropolitan area of one), a city councillor is only eligible to have an article if the sourcing and substance can show a reason why they're personally a special case of much greater nationalized or internationalized significance than most other city councillors, which this article is not doing at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete even if they somehow passed NPOL which they do not, the sourcing on this article is woefully short of demonstrating we can write a reliable article on them using only secondary sources (list of councillors and one self-written piece is all that's in the article.) SportingFlyer T·C 14:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.