Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Johnson (father of Andrew Johnson) (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Andrew Johnson. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Johnson (father of Andrew Johnson)[edit]

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This article fails WP:GNG. While he has been mentioned in several books as a result of his presidential son, notability is not inherited and WP:SIGCOV still applies. Information currently in this article can and already is included in his son's article.

A previous AfD four years ago ended in no consensus; the mentioned sparse newspaper coverage there of his saving drowning sailors runs into WP:BIO1E problems. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, History, and North Carolina. — Karnataka ^talk 10:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the article title demonstrates the problem. If we need to know he is the father of Andrew Johnson up front, it is because he is not independently notable. As notability is not inherited, there should not be an article. The relevant information is on the Andrew Johnson page. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or merge to Andrew Johnson. Folks have been suggesting making "Family of Andrew Johnson"-type articles in such situations as well, which seems like a very good idea here, so a WP:ATD would be beneficial to preserve history. —siro χ o 04:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
delete This is original historical research about a person who does not reverse-inherit the notability of his son. Mangoe (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or delete merge if there's anything worth merging back into the Andrew Johnson article, otherwise delete. SportingFlyer T·C 11:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.