Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J. Haller

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:32, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

J. Haller[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTSCRIT #5, and suitable coverage is unlikely to be available as we don't know basic biographical details about him, such as his first name or date of birth, that would allow us to find such coverage - we don't even know what event he competed in.

Renominating after a procedural keep. Redirect is not suitable per WP:R#DELETE #1; it would make it unreasonably difficult for readers to find other people who are mentioned or are notable with the same initials. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics and Belgium. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 06:52, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Belgium at the 1920 Summer Olympics#Shooting. A redirect is suitable per WP:R#KEEP #1, WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE and WP:CHEAP. Note that an earlier attempt to redirect the article was undone by the nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Because that previous blank-and-redirect was done during an AfD, and because a redirect is not suitable here is readers looking for J. Haller can be reasonably searching for dozens of other unrelated articles. BilledMammal (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, oppose redirect; fails GNG. Redirection would not be a valid result here, since it is far more likely that readers would be looking for one of a number of other people of that name, including Johann Haller, Johannes Evangelist Haller, Jost Haller, Józef Haller, Julia Haller; aside from being a surprise to end up at a trivial mention in a sports event article, finding of these other articles (on people who are actually notable) would be hindered. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 12:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet inclusion criteria. No reason to supposed someone looking for this initial plus last name combination would even be looking for information on this person. Especially since above we have a list of 5 other people who are much more likely to be the object of this search.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. We don't really know who this person is without a first name, and we don't even know what event he participated in. There's roughly 14,000 people named Haller in the US right now - how many of them are "J. Haller" and may be at least as notable as this one? Jacona (talk) 11:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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