Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jérémy Lenaerts

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The result was delete. – bradv🍁 03:24, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jérémy Lenaerts[edit]

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I prodded this with the same rationale as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Hayden (rugby union) and dozens of other recent AFDs, which was: Player does not qualify for WP:NRU (Major League Rugby is not a notable league under WP:NRU), only brief mentions and news of him signing for sides so does not qualify for WP:GNG either. It was deprodded due to him playing in the French Second Division, but it turns out this was only 1 game. The project guideline notwithstanding, it has become a crystal-clear consensus in sports AFD discussions that playing 1 game is nowhere near enough for Wikipedia inclusion. For association football, I can point to at least 50 AFDs with this outcome. There is no reason why rugby should be different. Geschichte (talk) 10:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Rugby union-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I was the user who deprodded for the above reasons. The player certainly doesn't reach WP:GNG as there is only really coverage of him signing for certain sides, certainly not enough for significant coverage. He though of course has played 1 game which qualifies him as 'notable' under WP:NRU. Wikipedia:WikiProject Football has as has been said set different guidelines on appearances for notability (Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union seems to suggest only 1 game is needed for notability). I'd like to see other users views before making a final decision on keep or delete. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 14:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Having seen the comments of other editors I'm inclined to agree with them. Failing WP:GNG should take precedence in this case over WP:NRU especially as it's unlikely that the player will make any appearances that would qualify him further under WP:NRU in the near future. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 11:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If a person does not pass GNG we should not have an article on them. If the rugby criteria lead to any other conclusion, they should be scrapped.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:39, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I agree with JPL and Geschichte. Failing GNG should take precedence over scraping through NRU by skin of teeth Spiderone 17:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - at the very top of the page that WP:NRU is on, it does say This guideline is used to help evaluate whether or not a sports person or sports league/organization (amateur or professional) is likely to meet the general notability guideline, and thus merit an article in Wikipedia. and then later it says Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. These are merely rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is on articles for deletion, along with relevant policies and guidelines such as Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I think this gives us licence to use common sense in the rare case when someone technically passes NRU but completely fails GNG. Spiderone 19:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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