Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Israeli intervention in the Syrian Civil War

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Discussion regarding a page move can continue on the article talk page, if desired. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli intervention in the Syrian Civil War

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This article is entirely based on a specific incident which is already covered. Furthermore, the alleged fact that this airstrike is some kind of Israeli "involvement" in the Syrian civil war is original research and POV. Ashurbanippal (talk) 01:40, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this was true when the article was a stub. Though much has changed. Since this discussion was started, the article has been expanded to include many different involvements. Thank you. Ism schism (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above statement is false. The fact Israel is involved in airstrikes in Syria is the definition of involvement. One can argue the magnitude of involvement but it is foolish (or political agenda pushing) to deny they are involved. The article has several references even though it is very new. The motivation for deletion appears to be strongly motivated by a political agenda. It appears to be a relevant, notable and well referenced article. KEEP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.9.4 (talk) 06:52, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Israel hasn't been involved in the internal conflict of Syria, it only intervenes when it considers that Hezbollah is preparing attacks against its territory. Otherwise it says neutral in the civil war and doesn't support either side. Besides, even if Israel were indeed helping the opposition or the government, one single incident with its own article doesn't justify an entire different article about the same thing.--Ashurbanippal (talk) 09:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I created the article is that 1) bombing a country that's in the middle of a civil war in an intervention in that civil war, 2)Hezbullah is a combatant in the civil war and so is Iran. There has been both sniping and bombing on the border (I know, not everyone agrees that it IS a de jure border, but it's sure as hell a de facto one). I remember all the arguments about what to do with the blitzkreig in Iraq a year ago. We need a page where everything on a topic comes together. This is it.Ericl (talk) 13:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I struggle to see this as anything but a POVFORK of January 2015 Mazraat Amal incident. Sources do not appear to describe these tit-for-tat strikes between Israel and Hezbollah in the Golan Heights as "Israeli intervention" in the war. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:29, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion has alleviated most of my concerns about this being a POV fork, but I agree with Ism schism below; "intervention" carries POV concerns that do not appear to be explicitly mirrored in the sources, so I would suggest a rename to Israeli involvement in the Syrian Civil War if this is retained. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 02:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. Ism schism (talk) 20:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Ism schism (talk) 20:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename Israel Involvement in the Syrian Civil War. The article began a a stub, but has been expanded to include many facits of involvement. The subject is clearly notable, and scholarly resources exist to edify the article properly. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 21:23, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - The renaming sounds like a good idea but it could fail. Jackninja5 (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Many sources exist about Israel's involvement in the Syrian Civil War as well as the impact of the war on Israel. In addition, the article covers far more than just a single bombing campaign, so I don't believe that forking is an issue. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:42, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.