Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ismail Shah

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 09:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ismail Shah

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Actors are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:ACTORS.

Steps were taken to locate the coverage in RS before this nomination, but were not successful, thus this bio fails verification. Notifying @Narky Blert: who has made some edits to the page and may have something valueable to comment. Saqib (talk) 14:03, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. In my {{proposed deletion endorsed}} rationale I wrote, "I looked at all the bluelinks to films, and turned all but two of them red. There are 12 films in his IMDb profile (which I found and added as a non-WP:RS EL). Only 4 of them are listed here. He is not said to have starred in any of those 12 films. Fails WP:NACTOR". I stand by that. Narky Blert (talk) 14:08, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as stub. He was features in couple of movies. Died early in his career in 1990s, so do not expect large number of coverage. Large number of articles written on him. I found [1], [2], [3], [4]. These references prove that he was an actor who worked and was notable in his time. How popular was he or notable he was, we can discuss, but that person existed, worked in movies and a known personality. Proof is in articles. This article should stay as stub. It also require some cleaning. I can do it, once deletion tag is removed.--Spasage (talk) 20:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All sources provided above to establish the notability of the subject are not even reliable, and cannot be cited on pages, let alone in AfDs where the standard set for sources to support claims is much higher. --Saqib (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Which one is not reliable. --Spasage (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I said all. All four. Saqib (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete-Per nom and Narky.Comprehensively fails NACTOR.No significant role in any prominent film.Most of the films, listed at the non-reliable sites, brought by Spassage, won't qualify for an independent article.~ Winged Blades^Godric 07:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Notable but weak references, needs improvement. Jogi Asad Rajpar, Talk to me 18:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note for closing admin Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive980#Possible_issues_at_AfD --Saqib (talk) 14:59, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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