Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infinito 2017 (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. kur ykh 20:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infinito 2017

Non-notable rapper/writer with no real assertion of notability. A speedy deletion was declined and since the previous AFD was two years ago, I'm re-nominating it. Still fails WP:MUSIC. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 20:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 20:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this even notable, or just bioliving things. I saw one source is myspace, it's definitely non-notable.--Free way 8 20:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Putting the dodgy refs in the article to one side, there are a few interviews in there, and there's another ay Hip Hop Elements, which with the decent Allmusic biography (you searched allmusic, right?), should be enough in my view. Allmusic knows about 3 albums by him - the discography in the article needs cleaning up as I can't believe all those listed are albums. I don't believe trying to speedy-delete this was remotely appropriate, by the way.--Michig (talk) 06:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, kur ykh 02:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The only reliable source I can turn up is the Allmusic interview, and that pretty explicitly shows that he fails WP:MUSIC: no charts or awards during his career.—Kww(talk) 02:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article passes WP:MUSIC on coverage - the allmusic bio is significant coverage, and there are several interviews and reviews in the external links. If sufficient coverage exists, chart hits and awards are not required.--Michig (talk) 07:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete interviews aren't secondary sources and don't establish notability. The article itself says nothing about his music besides listing the album/track names. It's just a laundry list bio and therefore likely WP:AUTO. Potatoswatter (talk) 08:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My inclination in this one is to delete, but I have to ask Potatoswatter, if the interview was from an independant source, then the interview itself counts towards notability does it not? Or am I misunderstanding the notability requirement of WP:MUSIC. If there is only the one source then it has failed the requirement for "multiple sources", so would be a delete. SpinningSpark 20:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- My thought is that any interview is automatically a primary source. It's not just independent sources, but reliable secondary sources. There are a lot of interviews linked but I'm not qualified to judge which are legit popular websites. In this day and age an interview is just an IM or email transcript. If a "real source" does "really care" they'll write an actual article... Allmusic wrote a couple paragraphs. Potatoswatter (talk) 05:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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