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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 11:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:NMMA with one top-tier bout. Has very poor sourcing and no secondary sources, so probably fails WP:GNG as well. Luchuslu (talk) 19:49, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Luchuslu (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Luchuslu (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Luchuslu (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - He was notable fighter that fought outside Japan, has one fight for top tier organisation, a loss to Cro Cop, very remarkable liver kick KO and last fight and test to sea can Mirko handle russin fighters before facing Fedor. If you ask me he is notable, but I am not shure is it enough for wikipedia. Master Sun Tzu (talk) 01:06, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I do agree that his bout against Cro Cop was notable for the reasons you mentioned. But it was his only bout with a major fight promotion. He did fight some notable guys in M-1, but WP:NMMA says that doesn't count toward notability. I think the bigger issue is that the article has no secondary sources, thus failing WP:GNG, literally step one in determining notability. Luchuslu (talk) 05:52, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree...so
- I do agree that his bout against Cro Cop was notable for the reasons you mentioned. But it was his only bout with a major fight promotion. He did fight some notable guys in M-1, but WP:NMMA says that doesn't count toward notability. I think the bigger issue is that the article has no secondary sources, thus failing WP:GNG, literally step one in determining notability. Luchuslu (talk) 05:52, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Doesn't meet WP:NMMA and lacks the sources to meet WP:GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fails WP:NMMA. Entity of the Void (talk) 21:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete - Fails WP:BIO, WP:GNG, WP:NMMA, WP:ATHLETE. WP:NOTINHERITED. --LlamaAl (talk) 22:52, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As much as it hurts I must vote for delete because he fails notability Master Sun Tzu Master Sun Tzu 01:02, 03 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Just to remark that notability doesn't have to depend on English-language sources and that, where a person's career has been very largely outside English-speaking areas, relevant sources may well not be in English. Searching for the subject on the Cyrillic version of his name (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) produces quite a number of GNews hits. I don't read Russian, which makes it difficult to decide exactly how many of them are about the subject (some, judging by Google Translate, clearly are not) and how many of those are reliable. It might help, though, if someone who does read Russian could look them over. PWilkinson (talk) 12:46, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment He may be notable in Russia, but not global enough. Master Sun Tzu Master Sun Tzu 01:02, 02 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.